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Ask HN: How do I come up with an idea?

#1
I'm currently studying a mixed media university degree which focuses a lot on web design and development now that I am in my final year. We have to submit a major project which is pretty much what potential employers will judge us on.

I drew up a few ideas, one of which my tutor told me to go for (it was a google maps/flickr API mashup) as it would push my coding skills and set me up for a path to take me down a more developer or hybrid approach (which I've started on anyways with learning Rails and coming from a programming background before university).

Turned out that it was already done and exists as the explore section on Flickr pretty much.

I'm struggling to find an idea that will push my abilities, is reachable, interesting and doesn't exist exactly as I imagine it already.

Any tips on how you come up with an idea?

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#2
Your idea doesn't need to be novel in order to develop yourself further as a developer. Do the flickr mashup if you want the experience.

A "Startup Idea" involves not just a feature, but something that is compelling enough to be a business. You should be in a position where you have more ideas than you can possibly do (this is my position- I get a new business idea every day, at least and a good one every week.)

So, I may not be able to relate to not being able to come up with ideas, but I would suggest if you're having trouble to think about the things that you see online and in the world, where there are problems, or inefficiencies that you can improve on. Great ideas are ones where it is a no-brainer to your customers and where what you're supplying them can be supplied at a very low cost relative to the value they are willing to pay for. Do try to look for things that are worth paying for- this sets the bar high enough, and means that you have something that can grow by itself without outside investment. IF you do get outside investment, a profitable business, is going to get better terms than one that bears higher risk.

Possibly more experience with engineering will help because it will help you identify areas where software can make peoples lives better.....

But do read a lot. Read entrepreneur books and blogs and understand that it will take awhile before you find the right idea and that it will take a lot of thinking about the possibilities of various ideas to understand what makes a good business for you to do. (Every entrepreneur is different and so their businesses will be different...find one that plays to your unique makeup.)

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#3
I've always found that my best ideas come with an open mind and by "doing" something. It doesn't really matter if there is existing competition - you just need to do it 50% better to be a success. Who knows, you might be part way into the project and realize that there is a truly killer idea for a new audience. Keep an open mind and do something.

Here's a good idea as an example:

http://www.lifesta.com/

The folks who created this site were likely impressed with Groupon and asked themselves, "what happens if I don't use this coupon that I'm going to impulse buy?" Open to ideas while using the service, they created a marketplace not just for Groupons, but that could be used across all of the groupon clones. With some good press and improved functionality / polish, a good idea will go to great.

Beyond erroneously telling you to "do" things with an open mind, here are 2 things that I do when I'm looking for new ideas:

1) I disconnect completely from technology, change my scenery and think without distraction. Getting into a pattern is the key for this to work. I usually book off Tuesday and Thursday afternoons when I'm in idea mode and no matter what else is going on, I disconnect, go for a hike and relax while brainstorming. Often, I'll toss a digital audio recorder in my pocket so that I can spit out ideas without writing - but nothing else.

2) When I'm trying to think of ideas, I talk to people. Go to local geek meetups / conferences and use the room as a sounding board. While it's not incredibly honest, I find that confidently telling people that I'm already the CEO of my new project idea, judging their reaction and listening to their feedback / questions is a lot more valuable then a conversation based around the sentence "what do you think about this idea".

I hope that these things help you out.

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#5
Just because it's already done doesn't mean it can't push your abilities and isn't reachable.

Flickr would have had the resources to do anything they wanted with the project. You, as the only guy on it, will have to make tradeoffs and sacrifice features in order to get it done. What part of that isn't helpful in the real world?

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#6
It comes from spending time in some domain, like wikipedia, photo sharing, forums, shopping etc... You don't just come up with an idea out of the blue, you do something long enough and you'll have an idea in that domain and have a few hunches on how to execute it well.

There was a TED talk about how people come up with ideas, can't remember what it's called. Basically ideas take time to develop just like everything else, they only seem like eureka moments because they sometimes come about when you're not focused.

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#7
I agree to some extent with everyone here stating that an idea doesn't need to be novel to develop your skills. However, I do think executing on an idea of your own versus reverse engineering something that exists does require much more from you. With a project that is entirely your own, you have nothing to fall back on. When you start at square one, you must design and implement everything.

So with that being said, I'd encourage you to check out a book called Thinkertoys[1]. Although it's a little elementary at times, it lays out specific techniques to get your creative juices flowing. Its great for analytical types because it provides a concrete framework for a very abstract activity (idea generation).

--- [1] http://www.amazon.com/Thinkertoys-Handbook-Creative-Thinking...

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#8
Stop thinking about new ideas and start getting deeper in the first thing that comes to your mind. Iterate through it, don't develop yet. Be at least one/two weeks thinking only about it, Can it be extrapolated to something else?, How would you do it?, Improve it in your mind, iterate few times, find which niche could fit. Start implementing it... and iterate again, and again.

After a few weeks you will get a deep understanding on it... ideas will flow.

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