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Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

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I haven't read any studies. Generally I'll bump up what I'm listening to, to 2x or 3x (if the person speaks slowly enough) so I can get through what they're saying more quickly.

But if it's something that's new to me, or highly technical, I'll follow up with a course, physical book, or create a study out of it in a different manner.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#4
I find that with audio non-fiction I may gloss over some details but the momentum is better so I read more overall, so there is a net gain.

If I really want to study a subject I will listen to the audiobook, and then re-read it in text form.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#5
The problem is multifactorial.

There have been studies looking at the relative retention rates of visual vs auditory stimuli where the visual typically comes out ahead:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2667065/ https://scholarworks.iu.edu/journals/index.php/iusburj/artic... http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal....

However, I would posit that the main reason for this discrepancy is that memory is linked to the level of stimulation, and we typically have developed to place a far higher weighting on our visual systems, not to mention the fact that the visual signal typically has a far higher information content, linking to many existing mental structures.

Once these sort of links are removed, with the stimuli being decontextualized, the two tend to be more similar: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/BF00447078

The problem with audiobooks vs reading is far more constrained, and possibly environmentally determined.

One study found that visual vs auditory retention rates for a short block of text were virtually identical: http://psycnet.apa.org/record/1978-21860-001

But another again shows the superiority of the visual system: http://scholar.utc.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1171&cont...

But this was done in a controlled environment where the subjects' full attention was focused on the audio. In such a case, it makes sense that retention rates would be comparable, as the same language centers in the brain are used for processing the input once it is transferred from the appropriate input sense.

The big problem with audiobook retention is that we typically listen to them whilst being involved in other tasks, and there are are a myriad of studies showing that humans are inherently extremely bad multi-taskers, with high task-switching costs even in people who claim to be otherwise.

Aside from just sitting with my eyes closed and listening, I find that retention is maximized with audiobooks when there is a split between System 1 and System 2 activity (ala Thinking, Fast and Slow by Daniel Kahneman). If I am doing something like driving, using System 1, my System 2 can be fully focused on the audiobook, until something darts out in the middle of the road and then I end up having to rewind and re-listen to what I missed.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#6
I don't necessarily know of any studies, but I can offer some "anecdata". In reading, I tend to skim past long descriptions without any action. For example, I would skim past the food description in Brian Jaques' books, the descriptions in Lord of the Rings (such as The Council of Elrond), and lots of minor details in Harry Potter. I've recently been listening to a lot of audiobooks since the free echo deal (that came signed you up for Audible) from Amazong.

I've found that I retain a lot more of the details now that I'm listening through the books and I cannot just skim past "the boring parts". I notice the subtle callbacks to details in earlier stories. I notice the little hints or clues dropped by the author (especially in their choice of words). I think I actually enjoy this more because I get a stronger sense of the "craftsmanship" element.

However, this really requires a good reading so that you can distinguish the different voices, emotions, and details.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#7
I find that at the end of the day, my eyes are ready for a break and audiobooks provide entertainment & insight. My experience indicates that my retention rate for an audiobook is worse even though I listen to more overall content.

That said, I find it valuable to learn how a writer thinks more so than the technical details of each point they're trying to make. Right now I'm on a deep dive for an author...listening to ~100 hours of their material. It is somewhat like listening to 100 hours of their lecture. I learn different things while listening to a lecture than I do when reading.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

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post #2

http://www.danielwillingham.com/daniel-willingham-science-an...

I was going to write the same thing before even reading this.

The human brain is hardware-accelerated for encoding and decoding spoken language. That's why alphabets often just represent sounds, why it's so easy for even an educated adult to right homophones, and why professional writers still take into consideration sonic properties like rhythm. It's because, like the article says, even while reading silently, you still hear it.

Speech is primary, writing secondary. So sit back, relax, and enjoy it.

Re: Ask HN: Are there any studies about book reading retention rates vs. audiobooks?

#10
A suggestion for Audiobook: I'd really like to have a start/stop button on UI by pressing which the app automatically captures a note in text format and stores in the cloud under the same Audiobook. I hate to always take manual notes and in process miss out what narrator said during the time I was taking the notes.
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