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Ask HN: Anyone hosting their site on servers in their garage?

#1
Why more startups aren't doing this?

I'm all done with slow disk on cloud hosts. I have no budget to pay for a colo or a dedicated host. I'm planning on building a server with commodity components and an Intel SSD. I figure I can build a server with a quad core AMD chip, an Intel SSD and extra memory and Disks I have lying around for about $500.

A Comcast Business Broadband package gets me 22 Mbps/5 Mbps for $100 a month. Double that for 50Mbps/10Mbps.

I don't need 5 nines of reliability. I'm willing to deal with a couple of hours of down time in an emergency while we're getting off the ground.

Why aren't more startups doing this? I understand that you might want to buy decent "enterprise" hardware at some point if your site takes off. But, hardware is dirt cheap compared to the crap offerings you get on cloud hosts. Am I missing something?

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#2
It's fine until your garage burns down / floods, or someone digs through your street's connection.

Those things are unlikely, but even with a backup you're going to have pretty horrendous amounts of downtime. You could lessen the impact by having some off-site secondary system ready to go at any moment, but then at that point you might as well be renting a server.

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#3
I've done this before when testing out micro business ideas, and if they take off then I get a more professional hosting setup.

Like you I build a fast box myself from parts and made sure I had a good broadband provider with consistent upstream speeds.

If you're idea's successful, you'll soon know about it.

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#4
Yes, but I have an audience of at most twelve.

However, while I use extremely cheap hardware (i build a server for about $300 retail quantity one), the power supplies will fail. The time that they choose to fail will not be in alignment with your choice of time to fail. If you live in an area subject to power failures, you are down if it lasts longer than say 30 minutes. If someone in your neighborhood sucks too much bandwidth, it is likely to pull from your allotment. If your lawnmower or the neighbor's lawnmower cuts the cable, who knows how long it will take to fix.

I have several UPS units essentially for transient protection, and two or three internet providers (cable plus dsl) and a verizon cellular internet access.

If I were looking for users in the hundreds or thousands or more, I would certainly go for a low-cost provider with a good stack. These are not that expensive and I hear that many do an excellent job.

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#5
- because you need a good connection with high upload rate. Which may cost a lot, depends of your location. And you will need at least TWO. - because your cat can eat a part of you utp cable => no connection - because your neighbor decide to dig a hole in the ground and he hit an AC wire => no more electricity - because of temperature. If you stay in a hot area (35°C/95°F) you will need an air conditioner unit (on my 2 years old machine there is a difference of 5-10°C with my AC on vs AC off)

Do you want more?

- because a good ssd costs A LOT and ssd's have some Disadvantages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#Disadvantages - because two (or even four?) 10k rpm hdd's (you will need raid after all, right?) costs pretty much

Do you still want more?

- because a VPS is pretty cheap http://www.slicehost.com/ :)

Re: Ask HN: Anyone hosting their site on servers in their garage?

#7
Over an year this costs you about $1200 for bandwidth + $500 for hardware + electricity/service. Let's say an even $1600 or ~ $135 / month.

$135 / month buys you two 1.5GB Linode instances or one 2GB Slicehost instance (I use Slicehost but they seem to be much more expensive compared to Linode).

The reason I see renting VPSs, especially at the beginning, as a smart thing is that you are postponing the actual hardware costs towards a later time, when you are (presumably) profitable. And if you decide to cancel the whole thing, it's just a matter of shutting down the instances and that's it. It just seems much more convenient.

Now, if you already have the hardware and you trust the electricity/bandwidth provider you could self-host. But investing time and money in hardware and self-hosting might just be the one thing that stops you from doing the right job software-wise. (Of course, unless your service depends precisely on the fine-tuned hardware that you might manage yourself, but I don't think you are in this situation -- it's just a cost discussion).

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You could also just rent the smallest server at hetzner.de for 59 EUR/mo and have them add a 128G SSD for 44 EUR/mo. That way you pay 103 EUR/mo (about 134 USD) and skip a lot of headache.

This is the 2nd day in a row I've heard of hetzner.de. If they remove their one-time setup fee of 149 eur I might give them a try.
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