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Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#1

Post by remarkEon »

> Calculator input lag bug

> Hitting airplane mode now drops connected bluetooth devices

> Swiping right to open a text or app from the lock-screen will cause touchID to fail

> Battery life has absolutely collapsed (pretty much have to have low power mode enabled to make it through the day with moderate usage)

> iMessage bug corrects "I" to some unrecognizable symbol [1]

> Siri App Suggestions now appears to suggest most recently used apps, not frequently - defeating the purpose of the home-button double-click (I assume this was done to support functionality on iPhone X since that doesn't have a home-button).

This is just what I've experienced before noon today. Why the decline in software quality?

[1] https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/304153/ios-11-autocorrect-bug-typing-the-letter-capital-i

Edit: More since lunch

> Using bluetooth headphones to control Spotify music app...sometimes, but not always, pressing the button to restart paused audio will start iTunes music, even though I never use it anymore.

> I don't know what happened in the Podcast app, but my saved podcasts are not there anymore and the library is difficult to navigate.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#2

Post by BadassFractal »

I'm earnestly appalled at how terrible this release has been.

I've had an iPhone since 3GS and this is the first time I can remember I've really regretted an update. I've NEVER experienced my iPhone completely locking up for 5-10 minutes right in the middle of me trying to get work done, not allowing me to even force-reboot it.

I have to power cycle it at least a dozen times a day now because it gets into a state where apps will no longer launch until I do it.

I'm not really a whiny user, but this is a whole new level of suck I've never seen before. It's a Windows ME grade of garbage release. Very disappointing as I felt iOS 10 was bulletproof and I relied on my phone to have my back as I was traveling and working, and now I'm constantly hoping the next app I switch to doesn't disable it for 10 minutes right in the middle of me doing something important.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#3

Post by arprocter »

Another for the list - the new Podcasts app is terrible

Edit: it's as if they tried to make the interface less efficient than before - it makes it much more difficult to find subscribed to podcasts you haven't listened to in a while

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#4

Post by jbob2000 »

It's a new release, not a general decline in quality. This always happens, it's just that iOS updates are infrequent enough that people forget about the day 1 bugs.

You want to be on the cutting edge? This is what you get! I didn't even have to tell my mother not to update, she knew to wait a few months.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#5

Post by ams6110 »

BadassFractal wrote: post #2

I'm earnestly appalled at how terrible this release has been. I've had an iPhone since 3GS and this is the first time I can remember I've really regretted an update. I've NEVER experienced my iPhone completely locking up for 5-10 minutes right in the middle of me trying to get work done, not allowing me to even force-reboot it. I have to power cycle it at least a dozen times a day now because it gets into a state whe…

Time to treat Apple releases like we used to treat Microsoft releases? (Always wait for the first service pack).

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#6

Post by BadassFractal »

jbob2000 wrote: post #4

It's a new release, not a general decline in quality. This always happens, it's just that iOS updates are infrequent enough that people forget about the day 1 bugs. You want to be on the cutting edge? This is what you get! I didn't even have to tell my mother not to update, she knew to wait a few months.

We're on the 4th update for this OS, it's almost been 2 months since release, I don't think calling them day 1 bugs is at all fair here.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

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Post by sambe »

Also: Safari crashes with force touch click-through fairly often. Lots of notifications seem to flick around faster than I can see them or react. Weird bias towards closing app over switching apps in the app switcher.

It does seem a particularly messy release, perhaps akin to iOS 7. But many things also seem snappier and more useful. Like another commentator, I put it down to teething problems.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#9

Post by BadassFractal »

arprocter wrote: post #3

Another for the list - the new Podcasts app is terrible Edit: it's as if they tried to make the interface less efficient than before - it makes it much more difficult to find subscribed to podcasts you haven't listened to in a while

The UX for it is pretty puzzling. I'll give it a couple of months to get used to it, but so far it's non-trivially confusing.

Re: Ask HN: Why is iOS 11 such a mess?

#10

Post by chomp »

I switched from Android to iOS for the first time with the iPhone 8 plus and while the camera is the best camera I've ever owned on a smartphone, I'm pretty disappointed with iOS. I'm probably going to switch back to Android in a couple years. I can't recall a new Android release ever being this buggy for this long.
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