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Ask HN: I'm depressed, what should I do?

#1
I'm an active member of this community but I'm using a throwaway instead because I don't want this issue to be linked to my identity

tl;dr: I graduated Software engineering 3 months ago and I'm currently without a job and back to live with my parents.

During school I was always told that I was "brilliant and one of the best". I tried not to show it with any attitude, but after a lot of people repeating over a period of many years, I think it entered the back of my mind but still with impostor syndrome.

On my final year I interned at a very prestigious company (not big 4, but still a huge one) with a great salary and an important project. Everything seemed to go the way everybody predicted and expected of me.

At the end of my internship, my manger lets me know that I will not be hired because the company is not hieing junior engineers at this time, but he would gladly recommend me to anyone.

I sent my resume to more than a 100 companies and I got a decent number of responses, interviews and even offers. However, all of the offer were with not-that-interesting tech stacks and really bad compensations.

For me it was not about the money, but a show of how much a company appreciate me and how they think of me.

I refused all the contracts so far, and the responses are fewer everyday. I'm eve, starting to regret not accepting a couple of them, after all this is maybe what i'm really worth and I was in a bubble all that time.

A few weeks ago I realized that I was gaining weight, and that I'm no longer interested in social interactions or my hygiene.

I told my family that, i got laughed at and was asked to find a job and stop being spoiled and lazy.

I don't know what to do.

Pick the next offer I get because there may not be another? See a professional about my current mental health?

I realize that this is more an anonymous rant than an Ask HN but I have no one else to ask

Re: Ask HN: I'm depressed, what should I do?

#4
1. Take a shower, brush your teeth, make your bed, and get dressed for work every weekday. Including shoes.

2. Spend the first 4 hours of every workday doing your best to get a job.

3. Profit.

You're in no position to be picky right now. Get a job and get the hell out of your parents' house.

Do not chase teh shiny. There is no such thing as a "not-that-interesting tech stack" -- some of the best gigs are writing boring code on boring tech stacks. Might not be sexy but there's satisfaction in producing rock-solid, boring code.

Reliability is interesting.

So is a paycheck.

Suck it up, buttercup. Get a job asap and after a couple years, look for a better one while you're already employed.

It's far easier to get a job when you already have one.

Re: Ask HN: I'm depressed, what should I do?

#5
I would take a job that offers enough compensation for you to live on your own. In my opinion, real world experience trumps a lot of what you learn during school. School is a foundation to be built upon, not the end of the road. Start earning that experience and more doors will open to you. You never know, while the tech stack might not be interesting the job could be. Tech stacks can change, try and find a product you engage with, something with more value than just a number in a column.

You may regret many decisions you make in life, the important thing is that you learn from them so they are not made twice. It may sound like a platitude, but it is something I have found to be incredibly useful.

Re: Ask HN: I'm depressed, what should I do?

#6
The bubble that you surround yourself with school and such kind of distorts how the real world is. You may be really great at what you do, but no one knows you. Without a direct reference it can be hard to get in some place.

I would lean toward what your family is saying, just get a job. Even if you feel that job is underpaying you and not doing something "exciting". Through this process you should learn about "selling yourself" and what employers want to have in an employee. Talent is important, but talent without being able to properly market yourself won't get you where you want to be.

Re: Ask HN: I'm depressed, what should I do?

#7
post #3

My very brief 2 cents: Exercise. It's clinically proven to help combat depression. Also, don't worry so much about compensation so early in your career. Experience is worth much more than $ to you at this stage.

Thanks for your response.

I think that exercise would be a good start, so I'll check the local gyms, it would also give me something to occupy me during the days.

About compensation, every piece of advice I got so far was about properly negotiating the first because it does not grow that fast (in Europe).

Re: Ask HN: I'm depressed, what should I do?

#8
OK, Tough love time.

You are probably not that good. And that's totally fine. You are not your work, and you shouldn't define yourself by your job alone. You are a multifaceted human, complete with all the inherent complexity.

You're still young - you need to get some experience under your belt. That means spending 1 or 2 years at a couple of middle of the road jobs. Unless the role is clearly really poor, then you shouldn't be turning stuff down.

Get some experience, be poor for a bit, spend your last £10 on tequila and go and find somebody to love. Live a bit while you're young, you will grow through time.

There are no shortcuts.

I agree with your family, stop being spoilt and lazy.

Re: Ask HN: I'm depressed, what should I do?

#9
You sound like you are being spoiled and lazy. You want your first job to be something where you are highly praised and valued every day, you only have to work on the things you want to with the people you want to work with?

You are young so you are still learning and thats ok. Try to grow up a little and realize that life is uncomfortable sometimes. That's ok. What's not ok is shutting down and giving up.

Re: Ask HN: I'm depressed, what should I do?

#10
Wow, all those rejections sound painful. I'm sorry.

So a few things: First, feeling down, rejected, etc., sound pretty normal to me given what you've described. That's not to say that I think that you should simply ride it out, suck it up, etc. If it was that easy there would be a lot less suffering in general. You're clearly cognizant that something's not right, though, and the fact that you're acting on that seems pretty healthy to me.

Try reddit. I can't suggest any specific subs, but I've found the communities that are supportive to be very supportive. If you're struggling with simply reaching out, that's one place I would start.

Yes, please do consider a therapist (or a career coach, etc.). The thing with depression is that it horribly distorts your perspective, and as you've touched on, begins a wicked feedback loop. It can be difficult to dig yourself out of that hole, and digging in can have serious consequences. Getting in touch with someone who can provide accurate information and context about your experience, and how you want to sort things out.

Sunshine and physical activity, as well as getting out in public are excellent moderators of depression. But they're not fixes.

Finally, if you take only one thing from this, I hope it's this: There's nothing wrong with feeling the way you do. There's nothing wrong with seeking out expert opinion on how to manage your life. Depression is manageable, especially episodic depression, such as you describe. Please please don't let yourself fall into the trap of thinking that it's a weakness or a character defect.

I sincerely wish you the best of luck on your journey. Hang in there.

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