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Ask HN: Is forming a company in UK a good option for a non-US resident

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I'm looking to form a foreign company because where I live (Eastern Europe) it's much more feasible and legal to just do that compared to charging customers online as a domestic entity.

I'm wondering if it's a good idea to register in UK or maybe Estonia for a small business selling a software product licenses and SaaS subscriptions online. No employees or any physical presence in the EU .

I'm mostly choosing between UK and the US. I've read a lot about US LLC formation and it certainly has it's strengths, but I fear US tax and overall legal compliance issues. And the lawyers are super expensive. And travelling there is expensive. I'm also not going to seek outside investment which would otherwise be a major benefit of a US company.

From what I see on the web though it looks much cheaper and easier to form a UK limited company. Except for getting a UK bank account, which I could instead do in Latvia or Estonia. But this would limit online payment processing options although I'm sure there should still be some.

Have someone been in a similar position and went for UK incorporation? What has been your experience? There's really lack of information regarding this topic on the web, compared to US-based incorporation.

particularly interesting is practical experience with things like:

- what UK taxes do you owe as a non-EU resident member of a UK company on salary (besides the obvious 20% of company income) - can you deduct your salary from company's taxable income? - are there any legal complications from a small software business perspective or is everything simple and transparent - downsides; why would one rather choose a US business entity (or some other jurisdiction) - am I overlooking some important considerations?

I know I should talk to a UK lawyer regarding legal and tax compliance, and I will, but I'd very much appreciate to hear any thoughts from this community first so that I have at least some clue.

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#2
What's wrong with having a local company (hence subject to laws in your jurisdiction) and then having a bank account in another country with friendlier banking facilities?

If this is a new business it's not usually worth the administrative overhead unless incorporating in the UK or US solves a specific issue (like stripe support, or some other critical services you made need).

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In UK are very stricts with all the paper work, if you don't do something right you will receive a fine (and not a small one regardless of what you missed). There are companies with manage this type of things and deal with all the paperwork. Just search for how to open a company in Uk. Some of them also helps with opening the bank account.

For me the worst thing about a Europe company is to deal with taxes when you sell to European countries. By lay you have to charge the tax where your client is, it means you have to be aware of where is your client located and the taxes in that country, plus fill all the paper work related. Keep this in mind as it can be worth for you to open the company in your country just to avoid this kind of things.

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post #2

What's wrong with having a local company (hence subject to laws in your jurisdiction) and then having a bank account in another country with friendlier banking facilities? If this is a new business it's not usually worth the administrative overhead unless incorporating in the UK or US solves a specific issue (like stripe support, or some other critical services you made need).

The problem is not banking, it's compliance with local regulations. There are some requirements that make global online sales like not practical.

So I would say the main purpose of this whole thing is payment processing in a sane jurisdiction.

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In UK are very stricts with all the paper work, if you don't do something right you will receive a fine (and not a small one regardless of what you missed). There are companies with manage this type of things and deal with all the paperwork. Just search for how to open a company in Uk. Some of them also helps with opening the bank account. For me the worst thing about a Europe company is to deal with taxes when you s…

I have no problem with them being strict as long as it's not very difficult or expensive to comply. Is this the case?

I don't suppose IRS or any other authority is particularly casual either.

Thank you for mentioning the VAT issues. I've read about that, and as I understand, there's a bunch of services for dealing with VAT collection. Some payment solutions presumably even handle it for you.

Re: Ask HN: Is forming a company in UK a good option for a non-US resident

#9
You're perhaps better asking an accountant in the UK, rather than a lawyer.

It costs ~£15 to start a limited company in England and Wales (a separate jurisdiction to Scotland and Northern Ireland). So long as you keep accurate records and file your annual accounts correctly, that's all there is. An accountant would normally do the filing for you. For a small business this can often be done for £500-£1000. If you do your own bookkeeping and keep accurate records, that will keep costs down.

As your business will be domiciled in the UK, it will be subject to the UK's tax regime. But if you're outside the UK, your salary from the business shouldn't be subject to UK taxation (do check that, though - double-taxation isn't something I know much about).

TL;DR - Find an accountant in the UK who'll be willing to give you a free consultation (most of them). You'll probably find one on ukbusinessforums.co.uk (it's where I found mine).

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- deleted comment about US company... - Regarding UK limited... there are special service companies which assist you in creating one, also helping you with taxes etc. But I don't know how this works for non EU residents.

No offence, but this is contradicting everything I've learned about US incorporation so far :) Do you have any sources I can look into?

From what I know you can easily form and operate a company in the US without ever being present there.

You would have to come in person to get a bank account though.

I know there are always companies who will take money for assisting with any kind of crazy stuff. Here I just wonder if anyone who's not selling such services could share some real-world experience.

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