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OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300

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Re: OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300

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Post by c-hendricks »

awestroke wrote: post #55
ctkhn wrote: post #23

This seems like a more expensive version of the rabbit or friend ai pins. What is going to differentiate this above any of (1) my phone that can use any AI provider and I can already carry around the home, (2) a set of smart speakers that can talk to an AI provider like google home/homepod/alexa, or (3) my computer?

1. You can't just press a button on your phone to instantly start an ai voice conversation 2. You can't bring your smart speakers with you everywhere, also same as 1 3. See 1 and 2

You absolutely can just press a button on a phone to instantly start an AI voice conversation. Heck, you don't even need to press a button in a lot of cases.

Re: OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300

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Post by badc0ffee »

wongarsu wrote: post #14
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #4

Isn't this a plateaued market? Amazon, Google, and Apple are already entrenched in the space. It's not like any of them have toxic brands like Oracle where everyone is dying to free themselves. Most people are happy with their products. This seems like a tough move...

I haven't kept up. Are Siri, Alexa or Google's smart speakers any good now? Or are they still mostly for setting timers and controlling spotify?

I had one of those Apple speakers (HomePod Mini) and the only other thing I ever did with it was speaker phone calls. It was really good that that.

I ended up selling it for $50 or something.

Re: OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

rocmcd wrote: post #56
thewebguyd wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t wanna carry another device with me all the time And that's why this (and any other stand alone "AI device") is doomed to fail. We solved this problem already in 2007. "An iPod. A phone. An internet communicator. Are you getting it? These are not three separate devices." The industry has been chasing that high ever since, failing to stop and consider that maybe the smartphone is effectively peak consumer tec…

I find it ironic that between the money they have raised, the talent they have in-house, and the quasi-super intelligence they have at their disposal, you would think they could have just created their own brand of smartphone (or done something like One Plus / Nothing).

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Re: OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300

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Post by iamdelirium »

bogzz wrote: post #39
danans wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Gemini read out loud "setting an alarm for 7am tomorrow morning". But it was bullshit, it doesn't have the power to set alarms, it was just gaslighting me. The Gemini on my Google Home has the ability to set alarms. Maybe it's a permissions issue on your device.

I'm talking about the Google app on every Android with gapps on it. It used to be able to do this for you, and now it just does web search. It's a massive downgrade.

Gemini sets alarms for me in Android all the time via voice chat all the time. Did you give it permission to interact with the apps?

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Post by [deleted] »

ctkhn wrote: post #23

This seems like a more expensive version of the rabbit or friend ai pins. What is going to differentiate this above any of (1) my phone that can use any AI provider and I can already carry around the home, (2) a set of smart speakers that can talk to an AI provider like google home/homepod/alexa, or (3) my computer?

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Re: OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300

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Post by georgemcbay »

wongarsu wrote: post #20
sajithdilshan wrote: post #5

I wonder what exact features this would provide that the mobile app cannot. I don’t wanna carry another device with me all the time

The description makes me think that it's targeted at the "screenless" trend. Especially among young people there is a trend to cut down on smartphone usage. This device would fit right in with that: no screen, status display with LEDs and oldschool moving parts (presumably engineered to be cute or endearing). Something to carry around when you don't want to be distracted by the temptations on your phone screen The ir…

> The description makes me think that it's targeted at the "screenless" trend. Especially among young people there is a trend to cut down on smartphone usage.

Perhaps so, but I don't think it is going to do very well in this demographic.

You know what young people hate way more than overuse of screens? AI.

Re: OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300

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Post by sahila »

rocmcd wrote: post #56
thewebguyd wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t wanna carry another device with me all the time And that's why this (and any other stand alone "AI device") is doomed to fail. We solved this problem already in 2007. "An iPod. A phone. An internet communicator. Are you getting it? These are not three separate devices." The industry has been chasing that high ever since, failing to stop and consider that maybe the smartphone is effectively peak consumer tec…

I find it ironic that between the money they have raised, the talent they have in-house, and the quasi-super intelligence they have at their disposal, you would think they could have just created their own brand of smartphone (or done something like One Plus / Nothing).

Microsoft, Meta, and Amazon have all tried to create their own smartphone since Android has been around. Why do you think OpenAI would succeed?

Even if they did make the new physical device, are you suggesting they create a new OS and ask developers to port their apps? It seems like a non-starter.

Re: OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300

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Post by jerlam »

> The idea is to make the device easy to carry around the home with one hand.

So their target audience has a large enough home that they need a completely separate device since they have areas that aren't covered either by smart speakers or their phone. But the device has little functionality outside the home, because it requires talking to it which usually cannot be done in public. How large is this group of wealthy shut-ins?

The previous "smart pins" made more sense. The first thing I would want to do with this new device would be to put a chain around it and hang it around my neck, but it seems specifically designed to not do that.

Re: OpenAI's new device will be hockey puck-sized and cost over $300

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Post by mox1 »

sahila wrote: post #67
rocmcd wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I find it ironic that between the money they have raised, the talent they have in-house, and the quasi-super intelligence they have at their disposal, you would think they could have just created their own brand of smartphone (or done something like One Plus / Nothing).

Microsoft, Meta, and Amazon have all tried to create their own smartphone since Android has been around. Why do you think OpenAI would succeed? Even if they did make the new physical device, are you suggesting they create a new OS and ask developers to port their apps? It seems like a non-starter.

Because if you believe all of the hype around AI, one of the top 5 AI companies should be able to use the AI to move the needle pretty significantly here. They have lots of money, resources and talent.

The fact that the result is a hockey puck you carry around and talk to should tell you what you need to know about the revolutionary nature of AI.

(Dont get me wrong, it is revolutionary, but more in an Augment our existing world than create a new world for us type way).

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