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Re: Signal is working on a paid option to create an account without a phone number

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If there is still one company pushing their own strongly opinionated client, how does having competing options available to power users detract from that? Like I'm not saying Signal-the-client should go away, rather that Signal-the-company who runs Signal-the-server could be accepting of third party clients, to the point where Signal was easily usable from F-Droid and whatnot. How would that undermine the mass market…

They do accept third party clients. They don't like it, but they don't have a choice, because they don't use device attestation.

Admittedly I haven't stayed up to date on what the state of the art looks like for using Signal from the libre world, I just know it's still not straightforwardly available in F-droid, and that doesn't bode well.

The last I heard there was a "desktop client" but it was actually going through the mobile client. This could be out of date, although I haven't seen anything directly refuting it and I haven't bothered to dig.

To the original point, the proprietaryesque policies rooted in the authoritarian desire for centralized have severely hampered my interest/adoption, and I still don't see how policies disrupting the libre ecosystem in any way encourage adoption in the non-libre ecosystem.

Re: Signal is working on a paid option to create an account without a phone number

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It's an optional feature. Mathew Green has continued to use and recommend it. If you have the threat model to worry about Intel SGX being cracked, you will also know to use a long passphrase. You could also use a GrapheneOS phone with a weak pin, it makes it easier to access the data. You can use a long passphrase if you want to protect your data. It doesn't make GrapheneOS bad. Other apps can see that data themselve…

It isn't an optional feature. If you decide not to create a pin one is created for you and your data is still uploaded to the cloud. See: https://web.archive.org/web/20230616082821/https://old.reddi... https://signal.org/blog/sealed-sender/ says "By design, it does not store a record of your contacts, social graph, conversation list, location, user avatar, user profile name, group memberships, group titles, or group…

They can't view it though.
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