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A couple generations plus a flattening of most major cities, and the deaths/imprisonment of the leadership responsible.
The second half never happened to Japans leaders despite being responsible for many atrocities in the region at the time.
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just wondering, do you want the US to be hated "forever"? or what is it that you are arguing for? i thought it was a fairly obvious statement that over the thousands of years of history, many bad things have been done, but after several generations, we are able to heal. if you think that in the year 2200, the world will still hate the US because of today, i disagree. the year 2500? i doubt the people of that time, ex…
> do you want the US to be hated "forever"? No. What I want and what I get don't always match up. The US will suffer from this era on the international stage for generations, in a completely self-inflicted blow. Its continued existence as the present-day USA is by no means guaranteed, either. Present-day Germany isn't Nazi Germany; I certainly hope people will hate Nazi Germany forever.
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#54And all you techno futurist republicans voted for this. And you’ll do it again cuz money or whatever.
But now they have "startup experience" and can fuck up even worse the next time.
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for awhile, sure. but we can look at japan, germany, etc. and recognize that it wont be "forever". edit: woops, i guess everyone apparently still hates japan and germany and will hate them forever, too. does everyone still hate spain?
I'd really prefer not to learn the "don't put evil assholes in power" lesson the way Japan and Germany did. They're basically brand-new countries.
Japan and Germany made it illegal to put the evil assholes in power. The US will do no such thing, we're going to keep voting for the evil assholes and every attempt we make at progress will simply be undermined and undone.
I don't see a way out of this without a fundamental transformation of the US. At the very least that looks like a Constitutional convention, repeal of FPTP and the electoral college, maybe even changing to a parliamentary system without a powerful executive. At worst it looks like civil war. Nothing on a lesser scale than than that is going to suffice. Expecting to simply return to normal with a vote for blue and pretend this never happened isn't going to work.
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Unfortunately Americans remain too comfortable to bother with any serious push back. The destruction of democratic traditions in America will continue and the president will keep using the office to legitimise his scams.
Even worse, way too many people are still actively supporting this. That can even been seen in the HN commenting crowd
> the HN commenting crowd
That set also contains elements who will swear that LLMs are conscious, so it does not mean as much as we might want it to.
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#57DOGE was never about saving money, it was about cutting aid to the poor.
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#58"No shit" everyone else says
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#59The amount of damage inflicted by this admin will take over a generation to assess, if circumstances are stable enough to do so.
Unfortunately Americans remain too comfortable to bother with any serious push back. The destruction of democratic traditions in America will continue and the president will keep using the office to legitimise his scams.
"Unfortunately Americans remain too comfortable…"
I suspect this too will change.
We may get to a point where we'll refer to the Great Depression as Great Depression I.
We'll see change then. It happened last time.
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#60Aaaand flagged