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Post by ticulatedspline »

Der_Einzige wrote: post #225
ticulatedspline wrote: post #186

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As someone frequently annoyed by those stupid bird/deer/insect ultrasound emitters I hope this doesn't become common, with my luck I'll be able to hear them.

My neighborhood is full of these anti-social devices which are entirely designed to try to prevent dogs from shitting on their lawns. The noise they make is always at a pitch I can hear and my dog always ignores them. My dog has no problem shitting on their lawns, and even sometimes pees on the devices . So I'd like to find any actual devices which work on dogs (well I have no use for it but just to be sure they actu…

yeah I've seen birds nesting on the device itself in places. Other animals acclimate to them, they might work if the animal has basically no reason to want to go there, if they want to they will.

The Home Depot here uses one in the garden area and I can't shop there for more than a couple minutes. our wal-mart used to have one in the produce section, fortunately finally removed.

Worst superpower ever.

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Post by datadrivenangel »

purplemoonx wrote: post #307
matheusmoreira wrote: post #194

> Until recently, only spies and criminals had to worry this obsessively about their private statements being picked up by electronic equipment. > But soon, the average person might need to deploy surveillance countermeasures. Already there. If you want privacy and anonymity online, you're looking at literal terrorist cell tier tradecraft. That means pulling up documents written by people from the "counterterrorism c…

This is paranoid. It is not that hard. HN famously can’t keep people out of here. They make new accounts. It’s not enough to IP ban. It’s impossible to retarget people even without vpn, all I need is a different cell tower. I interact at various levels of anon all the time, it’s easy just cover your: -Network (geo/IP) -Device (useragent, cookies) -Fingerprints (browser vendor, screen size) And you’re off to trolling

Good luck keeping law enforcement from finding your location if they really don't like you.

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Post by Tangurena2 »

Lio wrote: post #231
XorNot wrote: post #103

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You've tripped right over the difference though. Corporations aren't people. They do not and cannot present a personal threat to you. Even your trailing example falls flat on this: for the activity to be distressing you had to recontextualize it back to the individual level.

It might be worth revisiting the definition of the term "Banana Republic" and the history of the United Fruit Company[1]. Corporations have toppled democratic governments, run dodgy drug trials and given breast feeding mothers just enough free powdered milk to stop being able to feed their babies. We have large online retailers, Temu and Shein, accused of using forced labour aka slavery. Even a well known SaaS operat…

Additionally, overthrowing the lawfully elected government of Iran to save the oil interests of Anglo-Persian Oil Company (now BP) from being nationalized. This is the source of the US-Iran conflict.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9ta...

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Post by joebates »

shevy-java wrote: post #296
reedf1 wrote: post #282

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This would still be destruction of evidence - virtually your only defense against that would be if it was not triggered by you .

How can they reason that evidence was destroyed when they can not prove it ever existed in the first place?

They don't need to reason that evidence was destroyed. They just need to reason they there was an attempt to destroy potential evidence, whether or not there was actually any evidence. Any kind of interference with an investigation in any way is likely subject to prosecution.

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Post by txrx0000 »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #194

> Until recently, only spies and criminals had to worry this obsessively about their private statements being picked up by electronic equipment. > But soon, the average person might need to deploy surveillance countermeasures. Already there. If you want privacy and anonymity online, you're looking at literal terrorist cell tier tradecraft. That means pulling up documents written by people from the "counterterrorism c…

While this is true, it's not an all-or-nothing game. A little bit of countersurveillance is better than none, even if you're not that savvy. We can win by gradually raising the per capita cost of surveillance until it's infeasible to surveil everybody. Individual digital sovereignty will be achieved eventually, but we won't get there in a single step. Start small and iterate. Even simple things like periodically wiping browser cache or changing the apps you use can meaningfully raise the cost.

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Post by dTal »

MomsAVoxell wrote: post #147
toofy wrote: post #94

we desperately need a separation of corporations and state the same way we have a separation of church and state . we need a government that is antagonistic towards corporations that are abusing us. it’s wild how much influence they have and how little pushback the government ever gives them when they clearly abuse us from every direction.

I would be fine with the NSA recording everything I do, if I had access to it as a backup. I think it would be a valuable service a government could perform for me - assuming there were a way to make sure the data was not accessed without my side of the key. I would also think it pretty neat, were I able to use it as a backup over my life, for my own purposes - if I could do it without involving the spooks. Like, let…

That's like saying "I would be fine with people shooting at me, if only the bullets were replaced with quarters and they were carefully handed over instead of fired at high velocity".

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Post by BoppreH »

mdp2021 wrote: post #289
BoppreH wrote: post #257

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IANAL, but I would bet that's still destruction of evidence. Judges are human, for better or worse, and can see the intention behind cute tricks like this. It might work if your fingerprint was used while you were unconscious, but any solution that starts with "setup a trigger that wipes a device" is already on shaky grounds.

> "setup a trigger that wipes a device" is already on shaky grounds It isn't on shaky grounds: you protect your private device from everyone, not just from some "law enforcement". If you want to protect your private device from any party (e.g. thieves, trivially), it will also be protected against law enforcement agents as a side effect.

What trigger would you setup to protect against thieves? I can't think of any that has the right sensitivity (not triggering if I start running to catch the bus), and won't escalate the violence (like my fingerprint wiping the phone in front of an armed robber).

And remember that the context here is you explaining your digital booby trap to a judge who thinks you might have deliberately destroyed evidence.

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Post by kelvinjps10 »

inigyou wrote: post #272
BoppreH wrote: post #257

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IANAL, but I would bet that's still destruction of evidence. Judges are human, for better or worse, and can see the intention behind cute tricks like this. It might work if your fingerprint was used while you were unconscious, but any solution that starts with "setup a trigger that wipes a device" is already on shaky grounds.

AFAIK it's legal to set up a trigger that wipes a device. It isn't legal to choose to wipe your device after you know the government wants the data. Tricking the government into wiping it is still allowed, especially if you tell them not to do that.

isn't this what that guy did and he got in trouble for it? I'm talking about the one when asked for the pin gave the pin that would wipe the data from his graphene os phone

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Post by purplemoonx »

datadrivenangel wrote: post #312
purplemoonx wrote: post #307

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This is paranoid. It is not that hard. HN famously can’t keep people out of here. They make new accounts. It’s not enough to IP ban. It’s impossible to retarget people even without vpn, all I need is a different cell tower. I interact at various levels of anon all the time, it’s easy just cover your: -Network (geo/IP) -Device (useragent, cookies) -Fingerprints (browser vendor, screen size) And you’re off to trolling

Good luck keeping law enforcement from finding your location if they really don't like you.

Thankfully I live in SF where we still have personal rights not some authoritarian shithole like Canada or the UK

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Post by Noaidi »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #200
inigyou wrote: post #199

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Using GrapheneOS makes you a terrorist now. I'm a terrorist.

We're all terrorists here. Own a general purpose computer you can run arbitrary software on, not just corporation and government approved software? You're clearly a money laundering drug trafficking child molesting terrorist.

This is why we should all be stopping, or at least minimizing, the use of our phones. The point is it’ll make the corporations more mad and that will get the government to change. money changes everything
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