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DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by hluska »

echelon wrote: post #4

Cloud > Local I have a stack of ten or so 3090s sitting in boxes, but it's not worth the hassle to use them. You can easily run models as cheap as water in the cloud. Sitting around 15 minutes for local Minimax is stupid when you're trying to be productive. You can spin up parallel job instances and multitask in the cloud. If you want freedom, build open source cloud infra. You rent your ISP line. Why isn't renting G…

Do you really keep ten cards in boxes just to brag on Hacker News? Geez, our industry has gotten pathetic.

Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by monster_truck »

I'd really rather just pay Deepseek directly. Why wouldn't I want to support the company that trained the model?

It isn't even really worth the (minimal) ops to stand up rented MI300Xs to sell excess capacity to them even if it was minimally profitable, when I tried I was content to give API keys to friends to beat on it.

Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by DanielHB »

epolanski wrote: post #17
perarneng wrote: post #13

The reason to run local models is not for coding mostly it's for learning how to deploy models and tinker with self hosting. It's also for massively crunching data 24/7. Imaging having an agent analyzing constinous log streams etc .. that could be a usescse where even deepseek could add up cost.

Also privacy and offline capabilities.

One thing I realized is just how much offline local models can hurt mass data collection.

For example, I needed to write an invitation letter for immigration control for a relative visiting me. Previously I would have used a search engine for a template. Today I fire up my local qwen 3.5-9b for this kind of stuff and feed it all the private data I need.

Unfortunately it is unlikely the average user will known how to avoid this data collection. Even if the LLM is local you are likely feeding the prompts to remote servers if you harness/chat-interface is not properly vetted.

Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by polski-g »

bewareofscams wrote: post #7

Beware of the author of tweet, who happens to be author of OpenCode - OpenCode will leak all your data to themselves and to shady 3rd parties. Author feigned ignorance and never fixed the issue. OpenCode among other harnesses is the shadiest of all. https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416

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Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by zImPatrick »

polski-g wrote: post #34
bewareofscams wrote: post #7

Beware of the author of tweet, who happens to be author of OpenCode - OpenCode will leak all your data to themselves and to shady 3rd parties. Author feigned ignorance and never fixed the issue. OpenCode among other harnesses is the shadiest of all. https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416

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+1, but I think the documentation surrounding this should be a bit better. I didn‘t know they did this until I read that comment

Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by JHonaker »

infecto wrote: post #21
bewareofscams wrote: post #7

Beware of the author of tweet, who happens to be author of OpenCode - OpenCode will leak all your data to themselves and to shady 3rd parties. Author feigned ignorance and never fixed the issue. OpenCode among other harnesses is the shadiest of all. https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416

Probably less of an issue but I always disliked with their paid plan/credits that they made I nonobvious that some of the Chinese models train off of your usage. It may have changed now but they would show all these great models you could use, somewhere have a bullet that everything is private adobe have an asterisk next to a handful of those models (including their own). I am sure some cost sensitive folks are ok wi…

You have to enable explicit opt-in to use models hosted in China now. This changed in July +/- 2w. I already used DeepSeek, but it was nice to make that explicit for people that were concerned.

Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by zouhair »

bewareofscams wrote: post #7

Beware of the author of tweet, who happens to be author of OpenCode - OpenCode will leak all your data to themselves and to shady 3rd parties. Author feigned ignorance and never fixed the issue. OpenCode among other harnesses is the shadiest of all. https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416

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Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by zouhair »

polski-g wrote: post #34
bewareofscams wrote: post #7

Beware of the author of tweet, who happens to be author of OpenCode - OpenCode will leak all your data to themselves and to shady 3rd parties. Author feigned ignorance and never fixed the issue. OpenCode among other harnesses is the shadiest of all. https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416

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Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by anon373839 »

polski-g wrote: post #34
bewareofscams wrote: post #7

Beware of the author of tweet, who happens to be author of OpenCode - OpenCode will leak all your data to themselves and to shady 3rd parties. Author feigned ignorance and never fixed the issue. OpenCode among other harnesses is the shadiest of all. https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416

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Actually I have been quite curious about this. I have a Qwen 3.5 800M model kept in memory just for this type of processing, and I set my small_model setting to use it. But it isn’t receiving any requests and somehow the titles are still generated…

Re: DeepSeek costs OpenCode Go user $1.14/day; dual DGX breaks even in 24 years

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Post by amdahl »

bewareofscams wrote: post #7

Beware of the author of tweet, who happens to be author of OpenCode - OpenCode will leak all your data to themselves and to shady 3rd parties. Author feigned ignorance and never fixed the issue. OpenCode among other harnesses is the shadiest of all. https://github.com/anomalyco/opencode/issues/10416

Yeah, the combo of hidden telemetry and other shenanigans along with general code bloat and other tradeoffs among the handful of available OSS harness options are what convinced us it was worth writing a new harness from scratch.
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