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US Military's cyber command unit grapples with cluster of deaths by suicide

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Re: US Military's cyber command unit grapples with cluster of deaths by suicide

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>The concentration of deaths is entirely implausibly described as "suicides", The article talks about 19 people. Given the size of those organizations that's statistically elevated but too small a number to descend into conspiracy theories. As the article points out they apparently had internal warnings and studies about lack of mental support for people in signals intelligence and cyber related roles. Given that thi…

You supplant your lack of knowledge in statistics with unfounded assumptions and overt bias. The relevant metric here is number of deaths per size of the specified group and per time . You compare to completely different numbers and confabulate entirely unconnected "explanations". These deaths are most likely due to "housecleaning", as I said.

> These deaths are most likely due to "housecleaning", as I said.

No, it’s not. It’s very obvious you have no idea of how US military personnel work and live, and the stresses that can be imposed on a person by the function of being in a military. Among those functions such as deployments which can come as a surprise and up root anything you having going on in your life. Or, having to live for several years in highly undesirable locations like Cannon AFB in the middle of no where. These can have a substantial effect on a service member’s mental health. Add in work conditions like working 12 hour shifts in a windowless room. Compounded even further by crappy leadership that you’re stuck with and continuously denies your leave.

No, housecleaning is not more likely. You’re just ignorant of the military life.

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We sure do. They mostly work in federal government and government contracting corporations. There are multiple clearly documented repeated drone strikes on US citizens, even US citizen minors, who never were even indicted with a crime, that ended in assassination. Like the two intentional strikes it took to kill 16 year old US citizen from colorado, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Abdulrahman_al-Awla... . Se…

Are American citizens always innocent? From what I have seen many Americans are guilty of a lot of bad stuff.

Until proven guilty, yes they are always innocent.

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Are American citizens always innocent? From what I have seen many Americans are guilty of a lot of bad stuff.

Until proven guilty, yes they are always innocent.

That is true for all people. Not just Americans. It’s just disgusting to say that all Americans are innocent but we can assume others are guilty. As far as I know Bin Laden was killed without ever being tried in a criminal court.

Are school shooters in America innocent if they are killed before getting a trial?

Re: US Military's cyber command unit grapples with cluster of deaths by suicide

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Glad to see this brought up! My entire Air Force experience is blocked to comment on besides basic training...Tech school and forward is NDA'd, read in, etc You don't really get to sneak a glimpse of operations and write a book like the SEALs seem get to (jk!)

What is it about being a Navy Seal that makes you want to become an influencer? From the books, podcasts, and misc media appearances you'd think that the Seal Teams were made for media like the Blue Angels.

There’s a constant cultural stream of validation for their job, and the more narcissistic ones come to collect from it. You’re missing the many who don’t do that.

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Kills people by clicking on them? WTF? This is about network security, defending against cyber attacks. You may or may not agree that we should have people doing that, but conflating it with imagined nonsense like this is counterproductive.

What do you think drone operators and their support staff do?

Why do you think this has anything to do with drone operators?

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> Do you have any references about it? Before someone from the US claims some leftist bullshit about this (as this is what Russian bots typically do), here's a mix of newspapers including more right/conservative ones: - https://www.blick.ch/schweiz/polizei-warnt-eltern-teenies-we... - https://www.mdr.de/ratgeber/finanzen/telegram-gruppe-jobange... - https://www.sicher-im-netz.de/europol-warnt-kriminelle-rekru... - ht…

This is essentially one article about criminals recruiting young people. Is Russia FSB (or even Russia)even mentioned? I also believe the premise is true (why would it not, it's the logical thing for every nation state to do), but your research could be a bit deeper.

https://www.occrp.org/en/investigation/make-a-molotov-cockta...

That's a better source I found, does not call the phenomenon lucky strike though

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The US intelligence community engaging in murdering suspected "weak links" in order to "send a message", "clean the house" etc. is a regularly recurring phenomenon. The fiction, that intelligence community (among many other places in US government) was some harbor of angelic superior morality, capable of restraining themselves in spite of total lack of effective oversight is certainly "simple". That doesn't make it t…

Absolutely! But I don't think that’s the most plausible answer here.

Yet you fail completely at rationally arguing your "thoughts".

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Until proven guilty, yes they are always innocent.

That is true for all people. Not just Americans. It’s just disgusting to say that all Americans are innocent but we can assume others are guilty. As far as I know Bin Laden was killed without ever being tried in a criminal court. Are school shooters in America innocent if they are killed before getting a trial?

I’m speaking with regards to the American legal system. Yes the endless foreign wars are also unconstitutional.

Re: US Military's cyber command unit grapples with cluster of deaths by suicide

#269

I suspect the Cold War of cyber warfare that is happening is orders of magnitude bigger than the public knows. Imagine knowing this and not being able to get emotional support from your friends and family.

Regular Cold War people could not disclose anything to their families either...
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