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App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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> I think you’re purposefully misinterpreting the meaning of the quote to be a contrarian or to hate on Apple. "Assume good faith." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html By the way, I'm a longtime App Store developer, so my criticism of the App Store is not shallow. > It’s clear that the meaning of the quote is that Apple doesn’t look for strict technical qualifications (“they could breathe”), they instead…

I was not assuming bad faith, I was interpreting your meaning based on the words you said. I’m also an iOS developer and while there are a lot of things about the app review process that should be changed, I wouldn’t describe any of my reviewers as clueless. Maybe you’ve submitted more apps than me, though, and maybe you got a bad one. Like you said, app volumes are huge, so that’s probably a statistical inevitabilit…

> I was not assuming bad faith, I was interpreting your meaning based on the words you said.

Where exactly does "to be a contrarian" or "to hate on Apple" come from my words? That was bad faith psychological speculation, not an interpretation of my words.

You said that I purposefully misinterpreted the meaning of the quote. That is literally assuming bad faith. I'm not sure what you think assuming bad faith is, if not that.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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> Is Gruber starting to realize Apple's monopoly is bad? "I do not see the conflict between the view that the App Store review system is failing and the view that it's not the government's business to intervene. Allowing failing systems to fail is how market forces work." https://mastodon.social/@gruber/117055639204173161

Oof. Gets screwed by a monopoly, defends monopolies: idealism is a chain. It frustrates me how some people are buried in this ideology, given 90% of it would be denied with Economics 101. Yes, free markets are good to a lot of things. No, they don't adjust for complex matters if consumers don't understand then. No, they don't work when monopolies are involved. No, the government setting some boundaries is not the sam…

Why couldn’t the competitor make customers aware?

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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There are two big problems with this (not that Apple’s caprice is the only alternative): 1. The vast majority of people are Grandma, and they do not have a Johnny available to administer their tech. Most people are not technical. 2. The vast majority of Grandmas will follow instructions on a “how do I share cute photo” website even when that website directs them to dig deep into configuration settings and ignore six…

I think the bigger question is whether this is even worth solving. If people really want to give someone root access and do it willingly, maybe we just say this is out of our purview and allow it. And then, slowly, people will learn. They will be hard lessons but evidently baby proofing the entire world is not really working, so we might just abandon ship on that idea.

Tell me that when it’s your relative that is out thousands of dollars because they were scammed.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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> It’s actually exquisitely well-designed and painstaking crafted. It’s exactly the sort of app that the App Store ought to celebrate and highlight. Exactly what I thought at some point. Apple, or whoever they outsource their app store reviews to, certainly try hard to beat that kind of idealism out of people. I let my developer subscription run out and moved on to make web apps only. Never looked back.

Just fixed the /painstaking/painstakingLY/ typo in this sentence. Thanks for quoting it here.

I just refreshed my feeds and the typo is still there, although maybe that’s due to some part of my FreshRSS+Reeder setup.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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> So your solution is to ban the sale of any kind of knife. If you give a toddler a butcher's knife to play with and they get hurt, you'll likely get in trouble for child endangerment. Using my car requires it be registered, pass my state's safety standards, and that I possess a valid license and follow a wide variety of rules. Maybe a certain level of protection is, at times, acceptable?

Those are very different scenarios because your "protection" is the threat of consequences. You can freely buy and use knives, you can drive your own car, but you can only use your phone to do what Apple approves of? Sure, banning knives, replacing cars with public transport, and locking down all computers should be safer in theory... but murderers will still murder and scammers will still scam. Social engineering is…

When did Apple hold a gun to your head and make you buy an iPhone?

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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The words astro-nomy and astro-logy are similar, but this is no "fluke". There's a Wikipedia article with some history: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrology_and_astronomy I imagine astronomers have been sighing resignedly at dinner parties for a couple of millenia: In the Hellenistic world, the Greek words 'astrologia' and 'astronomia' were often used interchangeably, but they were conceptually not the same. In hi…

Yes, when I introduce my interests to new people these days I say "night-sky watching", instead of astronomy, just to avoid this problem. "Astronomy? You don't really believe in all that nonsense do you? Jane, this guy believes those horoscopes in the paper!" Sigh

Why did you change to enable the ignorant?

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Stuff like this is always why I ruthlessly and aggressively push back against any Apple fanboyism claiming that the App Store protects users or makes them safer somehow. This kind of behavior from Apple is unacceptable. Sideloading needs to be forced upon them.

Both can be true.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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> Rather than passing laws to require a non-digital option for these things... Do you think I oppose this?

Seems like you’re pushing for control over user tech here over any sort of other regulation. Other regulation which would be much simpler to coordinate and which wouldn’t infringe on end user freedoms! Removing end user control, repairability, and hackability/repurposing (all related) should be the very last resort, not the first!

> Seems like you’re pushing for control over user tech here over any sort of other regulation.

That fits your pattern elsewhere in this thread of not actually engaging with what others are saying to slay strawmen.

Over? No. Regulation and some controls work hand in hand as mitigations.

Re: App Store Rejection of the Week: Dark Hours

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Seems like you’re pushing for control over user tech here over any sort of other regulation. Other regulation which would be much simpler to coordinate and which wouldn’t infringe on end user freedoms! Removing end user control, repairability, and hackability/repurposing (all related) should be the very last resort, not the first!

> Seems like you’re pushing for control over user tech here over any sort of other regulation. That fits your pattern elsewhere in this thread of not actually engaging with what others are saying to slay strawmen. Over? No. Regulation and some controls work hand in hand as mitigations.

While we’re at it, let’s stop crime by adding more officers, reforming the bail system, oh and also installing cameras in everyone’s bedroom.

Last resorts are last resorts because they infringe on core freedoms. And your “controls” are equivalent to removing individual ownership of devices. This is a step too far towards a post-ownership society and joint corporate-state control of the individual’s means of communication and participation in society.

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