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Tech leaders say AI means less work – staff say they work up to 90 hours a week

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> A "sprint" is term for a common period in technology companies in which people work long hours in the weeks leading up to a release of a new feature or product. Alright, who bullshitted to the BBC? I know its fun to mess with the normies, but that was just mean.

Makes one think about the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Gell-Mann_Amnesia_effect

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This is just a random pet peeve of mine, but I simply don’t believe knowledge workers who claim to work 90 hour work weeks; this includes bankers and lawyers. I say this because I spend a lot of energy and time thinking about how to increase my effective hours worked, and I time myself. When I’m not severely depressed I’m able to do two four hours blocks separated by a break in a day, and maybe squeeze out an extra h…

Even 30 is quite enviable. I can only do focused deep work for 2-3 hours per day at most, the rest is simulating work to get paid - meetings, emails, etc, something you barely need to pay attention to.

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post #7

This is just a random pet peeve of mine, but I simply don’t believe knowledge workers who claim to work 90 hour work weeks; this includes bankers and lawyers. I say this because I spend a lot of energy and time thinking about how to increase my effective hours worked, and I time myself. When I’m not severely depressed I’m able to do two four hours blocks separated by a break in a day, and maybe squeeze out an extra h…

I think those people use drugs

Re: Tech leaders say AI means less work – staff say they work up to 90 hours a week

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> A "sprint" is term for a common period in technology companies in which people work long hours in the weeks leading up to a release of a new feature or product. Alright, who bullshitted to the BBC? I know its fun to mess with the normies, but that was just mean.

I guess they conflated "sprint" with "crunch".

Re: Tech leaders say AI means less work – staff say they work up to 90 hours a week

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> A "sprint" is term for a common period in technology companies in which people work long hours in the weeks leading up to a release of a new feature or product. Alright, who bullshitted to the BBC? I know its fun to mess with the normies, but that was just mean.

Most companies I've been in carefully plan each sprint so as not to include work beyond the teams capacity, not sure where they got this definition of sprint from

They didn’t get a definition. Probably looked at the word „sprint“. Went: „Yep, sounds fast but only for a short period. Gotta be these 90 hour weeks once in a while. Definitely can’t be the thing these folks are doing continuously.“. Crunch would be a better fit for that.

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I'd say the worst 80% of the evil in the world comes from the management and the marketing.

E.g. Boeing crashes - from the management.

Private minecraft servers are illegal? - management

No disc selling from Playstation? - Marketing

Why mentioning here? Because the greedy marketing team again told managers the AI is making people 100x more efficient without any proof, anything, just to sell sell sell. And the greedy managers again got fooled, and that's what we're witnessing here.

According to my experience the LLM assistance gives 0.5x-10x boost unevenly. This is really hard to predict, it's really fast on the first phase but getting lost in deep tasks, and looks like being optimised to win at the Turing test, but slack later

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post #7

This is just a random pet peeve of mine, but I simply don’t believe knowledge workers who claim to work 90 hour work weeks; this includes bankers and lawyers. I say this because I spend a lot of energy and time thinking about how to increase my effective hours worked, and I time myself. When I’m not severely depressed I’m able to do two four hours blocks separated by a break in a day, and maybe squeeze out an extra h…

I used to worke 70h/w, did that for a couple years, sometimes going up to 80 or 90h/w. 90h/w isn't tenable for more than a few weeks. 100h/w is bullshit unless you never buy groceries, shower, etc.

> So when people tell me they’re doing 90 hour work weeks what that tells me is they’re just harming themselves to be in an office for an unhealthy length of time, hoping it translates into something productive.

This is exactly what my colleagues thought. And then I left and everybody was distributed overtime work, so the leads left too. Projects that took 2 weeks suddenly took 6 months (or so told me the lead who was taking up my work, giggling out of shame). The company, which thought it could match competition with only 1/5th of human resources, started to do a series of bad investments to occupy the market. Eventually the board poured a couple dozen millions to save the company from the human resource dead-end it put itself into (I was managing 4 "microservices") and went bust a couple years later.

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post #7

This is just a random pet peeve of mine, but I simply don’t believe knowledge workers who claim to work 90 hour work weeks; this includes bankers and lawyers. I say this because I spend a lot of energy and time thinking about how to increase my effective hours worked, and I time myself. When I’m not severely depressed I’m able to do two four hours blocks separated by a break in a day, and maybe squeeze out an extra h…

I used to worke 70h/w, did that for a couple years, sometimes going up to 80 or 90h/w. 90h/w isn't tenable for more than a few weeks. 100h/w is bullshit unless you never buy groceries, shower, etc. > So when people tell me they’re doing 90 hour work weeks what that tells me is they’re just harming themselves to be in an office for an unhealthy length of time, hoping it translates into something productive. This is ex…

40h is already too much for me, 90h sounds insane

Re: Tech leaders say AI means less work – staff say they work up to 90 hours a week

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post #24

> A "sprint" is term for a common period in technology companies in which people work long hours in the weeks leading up to a release of a new feature or product. Alright, who bullshitted to the BBC? I know its fun to mess with the normies, but that was just mean.

I guess they conflated "sprint" with "crunch".

Or "death march".
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