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Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by sandeepkd »

bpodgursky wrote: post #15
midnightbobarun wrote: post #7

So contributions to OpenJDK have to be hand-written, while internally, Oracle uses AI generated code... I guess the logic is that employees who use AI generated code (theoretically) review their code better? The whole thing still seems a little strange.

No I'm sure they are just paranoid about license rights.

I believe thats the real reason, its not just Oracle, it would eventually be everyone in this kind of boat. No business would publicly use (or claim) AI to write code with recent verdict over the IP rights of AI generated code.

It would be interesting to see how this effects the copyleft Licences with contributors are using AI for the PRs

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Post by tombert »

27183 wrote: post #14

What happens to OpenJDK when Oracle dies? That's looking increasingly likely on a 3-5yr horizon.

I don't think Oracle will die, but even entertaining the hypothetical I suspect that some other organization (e.g. Apache) would pick up and maintain a fork.

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Post by cautiouscat »

I kind of get their overall point, even if it is ironic that Oracle is all in on AI. They don’t want a ton of contributions to review that weren’t made with care, adding burden to, as they put it: “already limited time of human reviewers”.

Especially for a project that runs to many major businesses, this could pose a massive risk.

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Post by fancyfredbot »

Contient wrote: post #11
midnightbobarun wrote: post #7

So contributions to OpenJDK have to be hand-written, while internally, Oracle uses AI generated code... I guess the logic is that employees who use AI generated code (theoretically) review their code better? The whole thing still seems a little strange.

It is not when you stop kidding yourself : using AI has nothing to do to improve the quality of the code. It is a vanity status, at this point.

Using AI is vanity? I've never heard that before. Why is that?

Refusing to use AI honestly seems more like vanity to me. Like "no machine could ever do what I do".

That said I would not necessarily accuse people who don't want to use AI of vanity - there are good reasons not to want to use it - but if someone else did it I'd find it easier to understand.

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Post by saghm »

27183 wrote: post #14

What happens to OpenJDK when Oracle dies? That's looking increasingly likely on a 3-5yr horizon.

Probably it would get picked up by someone else (e.g. the Linux Foundation)? It's GPLv2-licensed, so it's not like the code is going to be risky for someone to fork

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Post by dboreham »

slopinthebag wrote: post #9

I would laugh for a week if the courts eventually found issues with using LLM content and forced companies to either publish their LLM generated code as public domain or they were forced to roll back their codebases to a pre-LLM state. Probably won’t happen but clearly Oracle sees a potential for legal issues with LLM output.

Assuming you're talking about US courts: this won't happen because courts and the legal system in general exist to preserve the wealth of the wealthy, and that means supporting whatever large corporations are doing. Perhaps they stop a little before things like allowing corporations to kill people. Oh wait...smoking and guns...never mind.

Re: Oracle bans AI-generated code from OpenJDK

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Post by thewebguyd »

cautiouscat wrote: post #23

I kind of get their overall point, even if it is ironic that Oracle is all in on AI. They don’t want a ton of contributions to review that weren’t made with care, adding burden to, as they put it: “already limited time of human reviewers”. Especially for a project that runs to many major businesses, this could pose a massive risk.

Probably has less to do with quality and more of a copyright/license concern.
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