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Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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Post by gs17 »

anon48293 wrote: post #4
vivzkestrel wrote: post #3

- i wonder what would happen if the whole world went vegan from tomorrow - would it actually cut down emissions, methane? co2? - the price of veggies would obviously go 10x in the short term but would be the impact long term

- people would have nutritional deficits - methane production would only drop by a max of 32% due to farming - rice alone already emits 12% of world methane, this would increase - only 15% of co2 comes from farming. - 45% of the co2 from farming is plants. This would increase. So it wouldn’t do anything.

> - 45% of the co2 from farming is plants. This would increase.

And what percent of that is farming plants to feed animals?

Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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Post by yesfitz »

anon48293 wrote: post #4
vivzkestrel wrote: post #3

- i wonder what would happen if the whole world went vegan from tomorrow - would it actually cut down emissions, methane? co2? - the price of veggies would obviously go 10x in the short term but would be the impact long term

- people would have nutritional deficits - methane production would only drop by a max of 32% due to farming - rice alone already emits 12% of world methane, this would increase - only 15% of co2 comes from farming. - 45% of the co2 from farming is plants. This would increase. So it wouldn’t do anything.

I was able to find sources for your methane production figures, but can you provide them for the CO2?

To your point about increasing CO2 from farming plants: 40-66% of corn and 58%-77% of soy grown in the US is currently fed to animals, and we dedicate 5,000% more acres to growing feed crops than to vegetables[1]. Since between 3 and 10 calories of plants fed to an animal yields 1 calorie of animal product (depending on animal)[2], there would be room to either plant less, plant different, and/or use less emissive practices.

1: https://insideanimalag.org/feed-crop-takeaways/

2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feed_conversion_ratio#Conversi...

Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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Post by bobson381 »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #3

- i wonder what would happen if the whole world went vegan from tomorrow - would it actually cut down emissions, methane? co2? - the price of veggies would obviously go 10x in the short term but would be the impact long term

GHG would keep leaking out of the permafrost. Warming goes up even if we stop all emissions tomorrow.

Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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Post by pvaldes »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #3

- i wonder what would happen if the whole world went vegan from tomorrow - would it actually cut down emissions, methane? co2? - the price of veggies would obviously go 10x in the short term but would be the impact long term

> i wonder what would happen if the whole world went vegan from tomorrow

massive deforestation to culture soy

And every human farting at the same time would make the cows look like saints.

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Post by triceratops »

pvaldes wrote: post #14
vivzkestrel wrote: post #3

- i wonder what would happen if the whole world went vegan from tomorrow - would it actually cut down emissions, methane? co2? - the price of veggies would obviously go 10x in the short term but would be the impact long term

> i wonder what would happen if the whole world went vegan from tomorrow massive deforestation to culture soy And every human farting at the same time would make the cows look like saints.

There's already massive deforestation to grow soy...to feed cows. Eating soy directly is more efficient, so there would be less deforestation.

Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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Post by metalman »

the problem, that is not bieng discussed is that the high temp record is different than anything else historicaly as the average temp is attached to some realy wierd cold water upwelling just about everywhere

https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/products/ocean/sst/contour/

and what I believe will end up bieng record low artic summer ice

https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today

and what is heading towards record low antartic winter ice

https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today#nav-paragraph-308563

more graphs and charts

https://climatereanalyzer.org/

Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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Post by chung8123 »

pstuart wrote: post #5
root-parent wrote: post #2

We could not spend 200 billion on fixing the Climate... but we can spend 3 trillion on using neural nets to format JSON...

Let's not ignore the money spent on killing people in different countries, funding cartels, and ensuring that climate change hits faster and harder.

Increasing oil prices probably helps climate change.
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