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Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Since the other app is also heavily vibe-coded, it wouldn't make sense to kill your own, so I guess in reality this is questionable?

> While I had genuinely never seen DarkHours.app before yesterday

If only there were a way to share your own commits resulting from your own Claude sessions to verify whether it's true...

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

#12

On the previous HN posts I got this impression: The developer's astrology app containing tarot reading features was rejected from Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps. He then replaced the app's content with a clone of, if not the identical open source astronomy app "Dark Hours", copying even the name. The original is here: https://darkhours.app The developer was then in contact with John Gruber, who wrote…

That's interesting. I had originally posted a "this dude is classy" comment, and may repost, but I'd like to find out more, beforehand. Are there any links to this stuff that you can share? [UPDATED] Ah. I see this post has it[0]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49231394

I did not look into the details myself, but here are the links to the previous post:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49228166

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's interesting. I had originally posted a "this dude is classy" comment, and may repost, but I'd like to find out more, beforehand. Are there any links to this stuff that you can share? [UPDATED] Ah. I see this post has it[0]. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49231394

I did not look into the details myself, but here are the links to the previous post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49228166

I know that not everyone is thrilled with Gruber, but I think this is classy (from his article):

> To the best of my recollection, this is the first post I’ve retracted in the 24 years I’ve been writing Daring Fireball. I hope it’s the last. I was misled, both overtly and through omissions, in several ways, but what I publish is my responsibility, and I apologize for the error.

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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On the previous HN posts I got this impression: The developer's astrology app containing tarot reading features was rejected from Apple's App Store that prohibits astrology apps. He then replaced the app's content with a clone of, if not the identical open source astronomy app "Dark Hours", copying even the name. The original is here: https://darkhours.app The developer was then in contact with John Gruber, who wrote…

Oh I recall this story now https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49214863

I, too, feel entirely duped. What the heck dude. Uploading an astrology app that later pivoted to astronomy and having that be rejected for astrology is a way different problem from just having the latter rejected for astrology.

Thanks for drawing the chain. Infuriating.

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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I posted this post to HN after seeing someone else link it in a recent thread, and I'll repeat what I said there:

I find this synopsis very hard to believe, seems he's shifting blame onto an LLM instead of taking responsibility for his actions. He said he'd significantly alter the feature set, so why didn't that happen? That's a single prompt to Claude. He more than likely just told the LLM to clone the repo and ship it as is, not actually working on it in any capacity. In that case it wasn't the AI "reproducing" a bug as there was no reproduction in the first place.

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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post #11

Since the other app is also heavily vibe-coded, it wouldn't make sense to kill your own, so I guess in reality this is questionable? > While I had genuinely never seen DarkHours.app before yesterday If only there were a way to share your own commits resulting from your own Claude sessions to verify whether it's true...

Well if the other app was vibe coded I guess technically there was no copyright to it at all, ironic to talk about stealing in that case. I don't care about either party here so don't construe this comment as defending the author but I find the situation amusing with the current copyright laws.

Re: Mea Culpa – Dark Hours

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did not look into the details myself, but here are the links to the previous post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49228166

I know that not everyone is thrilled with Gruber, but I think this is classy (from his article): > To the best of my recollection, this is the first post I’ve retracted in the 24 years I’ve been writing Daring Fireball. I hope it’s the last. I was misled, both overtly and through omissions, in several ways, but what I publish is my responsibility, and I apologize for the error.

Gruner is a true fan and tends to be overly positive about Apple but I don't doubt his integrity for a second. In cases when his reporting is overly favorable to Apple in my eyes, I do believe that he truly believes what he says.
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