A 'bananas' order for 5000 obscure book titles fuels suspicion
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#3An instant and obvious good these companies could do is to digitize these books ala google books.
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#4This is a good thing to a point, right? They sell heaps of stock, some old / outdated stock (like "Pass Your Driving Test, 2018 Edition" as per the article), in bulk, at full price, no questions asked. Retailer's dreams come true.
(I don't believe them being digitized for consumption by AI will impact book sales much, as ebooks, google books, project gutenberg, etc didn't either)
Re: A 'bananas' order for 5000 obscure book titles fuels suspicion
#5An instant and obvious good these companies could do is to digitize these books ala google books.
Then they would have to deal with copyright. AI is the washing machine that leaves everything spotless.
Re: A 'bananas' order for 5000 obscure book titles fuels suspicion
#6Is this a second form of AI psychosis, as in AI training corpus psychosis?
The need for all the content, Moar!! Feed me. Is this the Paperclip Maximiser in the form of the Training Material Maximiser?
Will it be that, in the end, the lack of "Pass Your Driving Test, 2018 Edition" was the cause of driving rule hallucinations in all previous models? Will this finally get OpenAI back in front of Anthropic? Hurrah! We found it!
Re: A 'bananas' order for 5000 obscure book titles fuels suspicion
#7> with a focus only on books with an ISBN number, the identification system introduced in 1966
So it's not likely to be rare and precious books. It's things which are already in the Library of Congress or its many equivalents.
If they're forced by laws to destroy the results of the scans after training on them, as some have implied, that's bad, on the chance there is some actual lost media in there. But if they keep the scans, or even the transcripts, that's probably an improvement on the status quo, to be honest.
I've had family members in the used books business, and trust me the fate of the vast majority of these books was always to be pulped.
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Re: A 'bananas' order for 5000 obscure book titles fuels suspicion
#9This is a good thing to a point, right? They sell heaps of stock, some old / outdated stock (like "Pass Your Driving Test, 2018 Edition" as per the article), in bulk, at full price, no questions asked. Retailer's dreams come true. (I don't believe them being digitized for consumption by AI will impact book sales much, as ebooks, google books, project gutenberg, etc didn't either)
As long as the AI devouring a book isn't making it harder for a person to get access to a copy of the book. There might not be many copies of some out-of-print books.
Re: A 'bananas' order for 5000 obscure book titles fuels suspicion
#10> with a focus only on books with an ISBN number, the identification system introduced in 1966 So it's not likely to be rare and precious books. It's things which are already in the Library of Congress or its many equivalents. If they're forced by laws to destroy the results of the scans after training on them, as some have implied, that's bad, on the chance there is some actual lost media in there. But if they keep…
There are plenty of rare and precious books with ISBNs.