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US President hid in catering cart for secret flight in Turkey amid Iran threat

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Re: US President hid in catering cart for secret flight in Turkey amid Iran threat

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I don’t know what Iran expected for trying to assassinate Trump back in 2024: https://www.nbcnews.com/investigations/iran-assassination-pl... . Of all the people who weren’t just going to let that slide. Maybe they thought he wouldn’t win?

Remember this administration never passes up a lie about anything when the truth would do. There is no credibility.

Re: US President hid in catering cart for secret flight in Turkey amid Iran threat

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> When asked later by reporters why they had to keep their shades shut during the [decoy] flight, Trump said it was because they were “probably on a dangerous flight”. He went onto say: “But if I go, you go. Right?” Is that... "go" as in travel, or "go" as in die alongside the Pharaoh in his tomb?

DIE is cast.

Re: US President hid in catering cart for secret flight in Turkey amid Iran threat

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If true, this is really embarrassing. Have security standards really fallen that far, that we can't protect the US president in a more dignified way? That this story is even out there at all is an embarrassing low point for US competence and security. Amidst a ton of other incompetence and general displays of weakness from the US.

Is it, though? It was highly effective with basically zero downsides, and well executed. I’m honestly not sure what the problem is.

Re: US President hid in catering cart for secret flight in Turkey amid Iran threat

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So all the news outlets are crowing about the old and the new "Air Force One", but security/aviation wonks all know that "Air Force One" (and "Marine One") is a callsign, not an aircraft designation.

So if the President snuck into a smaller decoy aircraft, what callsign did these planes use? Does "Air Force One" keep up the ruse over the radio as well? If this is the case, and considering how difficult it is to keep secrets secret, then how large of a circle needs to be "read in" about the true situation, in order to protect the right aircraft? What contingencies do they have if one of them is actually attacked... keep up the ruse?

Yes, I admit, we've all seen too many action/adventure films with complex decoy scenarios. It would seem that doing them in real life would just induce headaches.

Also, my father is totally convinced that Qatar loaded-up the new aircraft with bugs and surprises, and they won't in a hundred years sweep them all clean. I feel like maybe Qatar wouldn't be that nakedly stupid. I mean, the Russians were really coy about their gift of The Thing!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)

Re: US President hid in catering cart for secret flight in Turkey amid Iran threat

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post #2

> When asked later by reporters why they had to keep their shades shut during the [decoy] flight, Trump said it was because they were “probably on a dangerous flight”. He went onto say: “But if I go, you go. Right?” Is that... "go" as in travel, or "go" as in die alongside the Pharaoh in his tomb?

DIE is cast.

Let's cross the Rubicon.

Re: US President hid in catering cart for secret flight in Turkey amid Iran threat

#28
post #25

If true, this is really embarrassing. Have security standards really fallen that far, that we can't protect the US president in a more dignified way? That this story is even out there at all is an embarrassing low point for US competence and security. Amidst a ton of other incompetence and general displays of weakness from the US.

Is it, though? It was highly effective with basically zero downsides, and well executed. I’m honestly not sure what the problem is.

Zero downsides except looking weak and like a doofus. The US is already looking super weak having given up the Strait to Iran for zero gain, and now begging them to just open the Strait up and publicly signaling that the nuclear demands could be dropped. Crawling around in catering trucks or carts to avoid Iran's threats is at best demeaning to the entire nation.

As for "highly effective" well..... Would have been far more effective if there weren't such loose lips that embarrassed the office. Seriously, lock that shit down.

This is probably a case of a presidency so weak that it doesn't even realize when its signaling weakness, and thought it was "cool" or something to do this, which is why they leaked it. Meanwhile our allies feel sad for us and our enemies laugh at us.

Re: US President hid in catering cart for secret flight in Turkey amid Iran threat

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So all the news outlets are crowing about the old and the new "Air Force One", but security/aviation wonks all know that "Air Force One" (and "Marine One") is a callsign, not an aircraft designation. So if the President snuck into a smaller decoy aircraft, what callsign did these planes use? Does "Air Force One" keep up the ruse over the radio as well? If this is the case, and considering how difficult it is to keep…

If you do an ADSB playback the C-32 was flying as SAM112 In trail of AF1

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?replay=2026-07-08-21:06&icao...

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