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Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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Re: Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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At some point, the rabid anti-generative AI crowd becomes tiring. This is extremely masturbatory and very intellectually lazy piece of writing whose only purpose is to raise cheers from the same echo chamber an author is in.

It's a reaction. Nobody would be "anti-AI" if AI wasn't being shoved into everything while at the same time shaming you like you're stupid for not enjoying literal slop.

Re: Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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Even better: pick up Rocksmith, or one of the many clones being built by people using LLMs, and learn to play a real guitar. I did, and I now play bass in a hardrock/metall band. One of my guitarist started with guitar hero, moved on to Rocksmith, and here we are. Band practice tonight for a gig at one of the best little music venues in Stockholm, Sweden next month. (Which I am arranging.) Good things come from doing…

Oh, is Rocksmith now using LLMs? It's been around since 2011 so for the majority of its life its not been that.

no, there's slopsmith, which is a vibe-coded alternative that's been embraced by the rocksmith community. It's turning into what everybody hoped Rocksmith+ will be.

Re: Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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Even better: pick up Rocksmith, or one of the many clones being built by people using LLMs, and learn to play a real guitar. I did, and I now play bass in a hardrock/metall band. One of my guitarist started with guitar hero, moved on to Rocksmith, and here we are. Band practice tonight for a gig at one of the best little music venues in Stockholm, Sweden next month. (Which I am arranging.) Good things come from doing…

Went to the website and I still don't really understand what it is, other than "learn to play the guitar/bass/keyboard for free", which can be a million things. I assume you use a real instrument to play the game, but how? Do I connect my guitar to my PC? How? If not, how can it give me feedback? If I don't use a real instrument, then what?

>I assume you use a real instrument to play the game, but how? Do I connect my guitar to my PC?

I use Yousician on my Mac to learn the guitar and the bass, and you just connect your instrument via an audio interface to the computer, and it gets your playing from that. I use a fourth-generation Scarlett Solo as my interface. I presume the Rocksmith dongle is ultimately just an audio interface too. Probably a pretty cheap one too.

Re: Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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At some point, the rabid anti-generative AI crowd becomes tiring. This is extremely masturbatory and very intellectually lazy piece of writing whose only purpose is to raise cheers from the same echo chamber an author is in.

It's a reaction. Nobody would be "anti-AI" if AI wasn't being shoved into everything while at the same time shaming you like you're stupid for not enjoying literal slop.

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Re: Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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Even better: pick up Rocksmith, or one of the many clones being built by people using LLMs, and learn to play a real guitar. I did, and I now play bass in a hardrock/metall band. One of my guitarist started with guitar hero, moved on to Rocksmith, and here we are. Band practice tonight for a gig at one of the best little music venues in Stockholm, Sweden next month. (Which I am arranging.) Good things come from doing…

Not everybody wants to learn to play a real guitar though. I play Guitar Hero for fun and entertainment as she clearly states in her post. It's literally just a game and it never pretends to be a way to learn how to play a real guitar. And when I've played it for a few weeks, I can put it down and play another game from my massive collection without the guilt associated with buying a guitar and the USB interface needed for Rocksmith and feeling like I've abandoned yet another hobby. Guitar Hero is guilt-free fun. That's valuable in itself.

Re: Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, is Rocksmith now using LLMs? It's been around since 2011 so for the majority of its life its not been that.

no, there's slopsmith, which is a vibe-coded alternative that's been embraced by the rocksmith community. It's turning into what everybody hoped Rocksmith+ will be.

It's called fee[dB]ack now, at https://got-feedback.org/

The project got renamed after a DMCA takedown.

Re: Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, is Rocksmith now using LLMs? It's been around since 2011 so for the majority of its life its not been that.

no, there's slopsmith, which is a vibe-coded alternative that's been embraced by the rocksmith community. It's turning into what everybody hoped Rocksmith+ will be.

I misread about the clones part.

Yeah, some are looking really good!

Re: Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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It's a reaction. Nobody would be "anti-AI" if AI wasn't being shoved into everything while at the same time shaming you like you're stupid for not enjoying literal slop.

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I do, and I deal with it all the time.

Sometimes I get code handed to review that has to same variables set multiple times, additional classes/methods/functions added that aren't used, and when questioned I get a shrug as a response.

Slop.

Sometimes they review it and tidy before handing it over. Much like although we have printing presses, hopefully someone reviews it to make sure that they actually printed square on the page.

Not slop.

The problem is that we have lazy people and mandatory LLM usage has forced us to confront these people that don't even proof what they write. Before they would just hide in the background and not do anything.

Literal slop.

Re: Why My Father Is Wrong: A Defense of Guitar Hero

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I do, and I deal with it all the time. Sometimes I get code handed to review that has to same variables set multiple times, additional classes/methods/functions added that aren't used, and when questioned I get a shrug as a response. Slop. Sometimes they review it and tidy before handing it over. Much like although we have printing presses, hopefully someone reviews it to make sure that they actually printed square o…

No, this isn't what I mean. What does the word "literal" mean to you?

Because to me it means the opposite of figurative.

Ex., if I say "It literally costs an arm and a leg", that means I'm really paying in body parts.

Or if I say "Your book bag literally weighs a ton", it means I'm saying it's actually 2000 lbs. and would take heavy machinery to lift it.

Or in this case, you are saying the "slop" program or code somehow actually transformed into some mystery food melted into a gelatinous dish when you add "literal" to it.

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