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Why anarchy = criminal?

"Anarchy" in that phrase is fucking wrong. Unsophisticated people assume that anarchy means "no rules", which is false. It means no rulers, not no rules. (More precisely, it means no non-rulers.) A better term would be "warlordism", if you want to emphasise the lawlessness of the financial class, or maybe "feudalism" to emphasise that the financial class and the political class are congruent.

Anarchy means "without government" or "without rulers". Seems fine to emphasize the government isn't acting like one.

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they already put more people in jail than any other country for expressing the wrong opinions on social networks

"Wrong opinions" as in death threats and similar light-hearted stuff?

I wonder when the catch all "death threats" ever became a commonly accepted excuse for locking people up. That should be reserved for cases where people are a threat to others, which is only tangentially related to the direct statements they have made.

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This is never going to fly, and expecting it is waste of time and energy that could have been used more productively. Think for a second or two about the type of folks who get, succeed and even thrive in politics over decades. Not your regular Joe, not a nice friendly balanced individual. No, biggest fuckups with massive daddy issues, school bullies, unresolvable inferiority complexes, sociopaths to the core, for who…

Why do you think they should get a choice about it?

Because we designed the system in a way that things only happen if they vote for them to happen.

Or are you going to personally install a camera in every politician's house without their knowledge or consent?

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The surveillance of China without the prosperity or safety. At least in China I can leave my bag or laptop out of sight for a moment, same cannot be said of my home city of London. What good is all of this when hard criminals are let out of prison after 6 months. Clown country.

Prosperity?

Yes, prosperity. And safety. China is well above the UK in prosperity and safety.

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I really don't understand why they do trials for this. What would be the failure case for the trial? "We carried out the trial for 6 weeks over X period of time, we arrested Y people, at that rate we've decided this is not compatible with modern liberal democracy, we would've traded a free society for Y+2 arrests over X period but we just didn't quite get there"? As suggested by other people - this is just going to b…

It's to get people used to the idea without giving enough surface area to fight it socially. Same thing happened with the body scanners at airports in the US, now with facial recognition at airports, and a number of other privacy concerns. It's a well-worn and proven playbook. At first it's a trial, experimental. Then it's standard, but optional and with incentives to do it. Then it's standard but you can opt out and…

Yes, the good old boiling the frog tactic.

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The hubris for surveillance in UK is staggering, what will they do next - roll out the social score system so you'll be banned from taking the tube if you express too much non sanctioned thoughts online?

> The hubris for surveillance in UK is staggering Yet the UK doesnt have private systems such as Flock like the US does.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new-strategic-partnership...

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"Wrong opinions" as in death threats and similar light-hearted stuff?

I wonder when the catch all "death threats" ever became a commonly accepted excuse for locking people up. That should be reserved for cases where people are a threat to others, which is only tangentially related to the direct statements they have made.

Lucy Connolly is the archetypal case. Tell me in your own words what Lucy did and whether she should have been punished. Make sure to quote the entire tweet.

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21st century authoritarianism. Humans learned nothing from the 20th century.

Humans learned a lot. They learned some ways that don't work. That's why Germany learned to be more subtle, UK learned it needs more surveillance, France learned to ban face coverings, not Muslims, and USA learned how to properly stack the courts.

Re: London Underground begins scanning passengers' faces

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“Our deployments are intelligence-led and focused on identifying people wanted by the police or courts, including those suspected of serious offences and those who may be breaching bail conditions or court orders” This is crazy. Could easily be used to track protesters who went to the an event the police didn’t like.

Could easily be used to track people who posted something bad on Twitter.

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