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How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

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Re: How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

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This is, without exaggeration, probably the fiftieth blog post or long-form comment about how someone is using an LLM for "complex learning", and I'd just really like to see at least one of these to be accompanied by a statement saying what are the kinds of problems the author can now confidently solve that they couldn't before. In my experience, LLMs are really good for taking up your time and making you feel like y…

Three magic words:

"use Socratic method"

Re: How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

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This is, without exaggeration, probably the fiftieth blog post or long-form comment about how someone is using an LLM for "complex learning", and I'd just really like to see at least one of these to be accompanied by a statement saying what are the kinds of problems the author can now confidently solve that they couldn't before. In my experience, LLMs are really good for taking up your time and making you feel like y…

This is not a silver bullet that will make everyone a genius. Not even the best human tutor can do that. But it can be a massive clearer of certain roadblocks for people with no better human help available. Countless people have to resort to learning from teachers who themselves are confused and know the material only shallowly and give confused and wrong explanations that can be very hard to untie for the learner. F…

I remember books using simplified models, but being flat out wrong?

Re: How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

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post #432

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This is not a silver bullet that will make everyone a genius. Not even the best human tutor can do that. But it can be a massive clearer of certain roadblocks for people with no better human help available. Countless people have to resort to learning from teachers who themselves are confused and know the material only shallowly and give confused and wrong explanations that can be very hard to untie for the learner. F…

I remember books using simplified models, but being flat out wrong?

It is sometimes typos, but even those can be confusing. But okay I'll admit books are usually on the end of simplification, at least for hard sciences. But sometimes they do handle the edges of the authors knowledge and sometimes misconceptions creep in. Famous ones include the reason for airplanes flying or similar "let's relate the hard science to practical reality" and making mistakes there where they think they can just improvise and wing it. Even evolution is sometimes explained very wrong. History and humanities is more murky.

Of course "it's just simplified" is a defense that can be attempted to explain away all mistakes.

Re: How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

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I think it depends on what you want to learn and what your definition of "learnt" is. The other day I realised I had no idea how DNA and life works. I guess I studied it at high school (25 years ago), but maybe it didn't go into much detail or it just didn't click. So I asked ChatGPT to explain it to me, I came up with my own mental model from it's explanation, told it that, then it corrected me where I misunderstood…

Can you say in all honesty that a read of the Wikipedia article for DNA would have been less helpful? It's less convenient perhaps, but definitely more authoritative.

Just reading something is a fundamentally different experience that being actively involved in a conversation about the thing.

Re: How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

#435

I thought LLMs were a great tool for learning new topics - perhaps even complex ones. But overtime, I have had several frustrations with this. First, I get exhausted reading LLM prose. I really don't want to read anything generated by something like Opus 5 at this point. Second, as I dive deeper, I need a way to organize the information in a useful way as I begin to branch out in many different directions. I have tri…

You should read this article sir! Just scroll to the top of all these comments and check the title!

Re: How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

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post #322

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I think it depends on what you want to learn and what your definition of "learnt" is. The other day I realised I had no idea how DNA and life works. I guess I studied it at high school (25 years ago), but maybe it didn't go into much detail or it just didn't click. So I asked ChatGPT to explain it to me, I came up with my own mental model from it's explanation, told it that, then it corrected me where I misunderstood…

Or do you? Cause if you went back and forth with ChatGPT for an hour it definitely hallucinated and lied to you at some point. Maybe consider using something else like Brilliant.org if you want to learn a topic, yanno, so you don’t propagate whatever hallucination from ChatGPT to your kids.

I would trust ChatGPT more than the average elementary school biology teacher.

Re: How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

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I personally don't get this attitude. For one thing, nobody on earth can give you a 500-word summary of quantum physics in a way that lets you internalize even a tiny bit of it. That's not how you learn anything. Here's how I do it: I open Baby Rudin (3rd ed.), second chapter, and read the main text - absolute brutality. I unpack almost every sentence with Claude/GPT until I finally get what's going on. No ELI5 nonse…

Is that meaningfully different from the study methods of the past? That doesn't require an LLM, and using one risks correctness in exchange for speed. You might not even get that speed if you're stuck in the weeds often enough. A decade ago, a google search for study guides written by another professor would have been slightly slower. A decade before that, you'd be even slower fumbling through several books. Every si…

> Is that meaningfully different from the study methods of the past?

The fundamental service a teacher provides is personalized feedback, quickly identifying where you are stuck and focusing the explanations and exercises on that area, drastically increasing the speed and quality of learning versus the self-supervised route.

The lack of this closed loop effectively killed the high hopes that were placed in e-learning and MOOCs 15-20 years ago, TV learning in the 1960s and many other failed revolutions, seems every generation has its own version.

It appears to me LLMs have a real potential to close this loop and become the failed educational revolution of our own generation.

Re: How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

#438

This is, without exaggeration, probably the fiftieth blog post or long-form comment about how someone is using an LLM for "complex learning", and I'd just really like to see at least one of these to be accompanied by a statement saying what are the kinds of problems the author can now confidently solve that they couldn't before. In my experience, LLMs are really good for taking up your time and making you feel like y…

Have you actually tried? I refreshed a ton of arguments which I had studied or briefly encountered before, so it's less likely to fool me than if I knew 0. And the fact that I can frame a question precisely and as deep as I like is truly unique and incredible.

For some things you still need videos and practice but cmon, I don't get this generalised hate on LLMs, they are based on what us human wrote anyway.

Re: How I use LLMs to learn complex topics

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What’s everyone’s opinion on learning new tech things in this day and age? My opinion swings between positive and depressing vision of the future. I still learn new stuff, but I’m afraid it won’t have any value in a year or so. For example, I’m pretty good at optimizing low level stuff, but right now you can just ask LLMs to do so and they are pretty good at it. They will profile the code and suggest reasonable optio…

Purely personal but as I get older I am tired of learning new things and would just rather learn old stuff.

Career-wise, this is terrible. But for me technology was polluted by the ever-growing greed.

For example I’d much rather actually learn assembly, than learn the nitty-gritty details of how LLMs work.

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