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London Underground begins scanning passengers' faces

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>I was idly thinking about something else and put an item in my bag without scanning it. A likely excuse!!

Fortunately, I am a regular customer and they know me.

They definitely know you are a regular customer. Their tracking database says you come here often.

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The issue with all this surveillance is that it always ends up with suppression of dissent and silencing of opposition by abusing enforcement agencies. All such surveillance should start with 24-hour live video feed of private lives of all politicians... they carry immense power and control, and thus, warrant an equally powerful monitoring and scrutiny compared to common people.

This is never going to fly, and expecting it is waste of time and energy that could have been used more productively. Think for a second or two about the type of folks who get, succeed and even thrive in politics over decades. Not your regular Joe, not a nice friendly balanced individual. No, biggest fuckups with massive daddy issues, school bullies, unresolvable inferiority complexes, sociopaths to the core, for who…

Why do you think they should get a choice about it?

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It’s a moot point. I’m saddened at the invasion of privacy and the intrusion on an individual’s civil liberties, but anonymous travel on the London Underground died when they made bank cards and contactless the primary way to get through the barriers. I’m not saying that “this doesn’t matter because it’s slightly worse than before”. I’m saying the frog has been boiling for a long time. I don’t want people being surpr…

> Your ISP proactively shares your web history with the state. How so? I'm with AAISP and I'd be very surprised if they were doing this. What are you referring to here?

Good choice, but most other people are using capitalismslop ISPs that maximize value extraction. I hear prices are a bit higher at A&A.

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It’s a moot point. I’m saddened at the invasion of privacy and the intrusion on an individual’s civil liberties, but anonymous travel on the London Underground died when they made bank cards and contactless the primary way to get through the barriers. I’m not saying that “this doesn’t matter because it’s slightly worse than before”. I’m saying the frog has been boiling for a long time. I don’t want people being surpr…

It's worth being aware the current police implementation of police LFR is explicitly not doing "tracking": it scans faces against an existing database of outstanding wanted suspects. If a match is made, it alerts the officers who are manning the camera there and then. It doesn't store anything that wasn't a match.

What if I covered myself in pictures of wanted suspects?

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The hubris for surveillance in UK is staggering, what will they do next - roll out the social score system so you'll be banned from taking the tube if you express too much non sanctioned thoughts online?

> The hubris for surveillance in UK is staggering Yet the UK doesnt have private systems such as Flock like the US does.

Ah yes, how could we forget that the grass is always greyer in the other dystopia. That makes everything OK.

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I noticed that in my country delivery couriers on e-bikes sometimes cover their face completely, with a balaclava and a ski mask. They ride at high speeds around pedestrians, break all traffic rules and obviously they prefer to opt out from facial recognition. Maybe we should start wearing masks in public too. There is no upsides in going around with an open face.

In France and Germany it's illegal to wear a mask in public. If it's not already in the UK, I'm sure it soon will be.

does this include Respiratory protection masks? The ones we just were pressured to always wear in public.

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Well, this about protecting the state from people that threaten it or its policies. I don't think it ever was about making us live in a safer city. Snatched your phone? Sorry mate. But some old lady better not be walking around with a tshirt that says "I support Palestine Action".

It's strange to me that in your bubble you think the police in the UK are mainly there to hassle the "Palestine" protestors and interrupt their peaceful "From the river to the sea" chants. I would say it's a lot more serious that they did nothing to stop the organized Pakistani child-rape gangs, out of fear it might offend people to even acknowledge it. Either way I can agree with you that it doesn't seem like the po…

The grooming gangs weren't prosecuted because the police were part of the grooming gangs. Basically an Epstein situation. Nothing to do with race.

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And the thing that absolutely fucks me off about all of this, is that we don't even get a lawful society in exchange for all of this. On one hand, there's no privacy anywhere. On the other - have your car stolen or a bike? House broken into? Phone snatched out of your hands? Good luck getting anyone to care about this in the slightest. You'd think with all the surveillance tech we'd be living in a nightmare panoptico…

It's called anarchy-tyranny, where the government fails to enforce basic laws and keep people safe from real criminals (anarchy), but instead uses its power to tightly control, tax, and punish ordinary, law-abiding citizens (tyranny). There are various conspiratorial theories for why this happens but I think the simplest explanation is that an ineffective government cannot deal with criminals and goes after the easie…

Why don't we all become criminals then? Seems easier. I'll start: here's a VPN you can connect to to access porn sites.

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GrapheneOS has Touch ID and a passcode as an option.

And what happens when your Touch ID stops working I find biometrics to be quite fragile.

You still have a separate password that authenticates you without biometrics.

The touch + passcode is nice because even if someone watches you enter your passcode it won't matter unless they can spoof the fingerprint reader too, which is highly unlikely. And you can use a much shorter passcode for convenience.

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