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Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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This paper straw thing is the dumbest take of them all. It's about reducing plastic waste (which is equally important) and has nothing to do with climate change. I have no clue how people can repeat it, as it has no obvious relation to each other?

Probably because both go together, and it has hardly changed anything when everything else keeps using plastic, a I feel good measure.

Again: I don't get it. Straws, bottle caps etc. are all reduced now. That's good. Step by step. Small litter is the worst imho

Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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> i wonder what would happen if the whole world went vegan from tomorrow Mass starvation probably. We aren't prepared for it. Give it 10 years and maybe it could be done. > would it actually cut down emissions, methane? co2? You'd have to do something about all the existing livestock. Again with 10 years' lead time you could just stop breeding new livestock and let them die out. > but [what] would be the impact long…

> Mass starvation probably. We aren't prepared for it. Give it 10 years and maybe it could be done. How do you figure? The same logistics lines that carry animal feed and then the animal can just carry the ~animal~ human feed directly to the consumer. Sure, the animals starve to death, but it's just a silly hypothetical.

It isn't as simple as "divert the trucks carrying corn and soy from feedlots to grocery stores".

Humans can't just eat uncooked, unprocessed corn and soy. Most people don't know how to use them as ingredients. You'd have to retool or rebuild all the food processing plants that current deal with animal products. Ramp up oat/soy/almond milk production. And so on.

Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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- i wonder what would happen if the whole world went vegan from tomorrow - would it actually cut down emissions, methane? co2? - the price of veggies would obviously go 10x in the short term but would be the impact long term

GHG would keep leaking out of the permafrost. Warming goes up even if we stop all emissions tomorrow.

It would go up less and the climate would likely stabilize by the end of this century. People treat climate change like it's a binary when it's really a range.

Re: Ocean heat records broken as hottest July temperature recorded

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Probably because both go together, and it has hardly changed anything when everything else keeps using plastic, a I feel good measure.

Again: I don't get it. Straws, bottle caps etc. are all reduced now. That's good. Step by step. Small litter is the worst imho

Reduced where?

Paper straws are such a nuisance how quickly they get wasted, that it is rather easy to find 1 euro shops selling "classical" straws.

Bottle caps being tied to the bottles hardly matters, it is quite common to see people in parks or at the beach, breaking the cap from the bottle to split them as always.

Then supermarkets still deliver most of the goods from several food areas in plastic containers for the most part.

What is worst is lack of education from most people, that throw away their garbage all over the place, regardless if it is paper, metal, cardboard, wood,....

This is the problem that paper straws hardly solve, other than what, I feel good when those people "forget" their paper straws on the beach and camping ground all over the place?

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