In Beijing underground doesn't scan people's faces. They also don't arrest for internet memes. Just saying.
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#322It is BTP, not London Underground, they are not the same thing.
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#323Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it's even worse than that. If at some remote possibility that a criminal does get caught and charged with a crime, the prisons are full (37% foreign criminals [0]) so they won't do any prison time, and therefore no justice is served. In fact our prisons are so full, violent criminals are being let out after serving only their half term [1]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_prison_populati... […
> 37% foreign criminals Why is this statistic relevant?
It's incorrect at a minimum. Reading the source provided:
>76,869 British nationals were recorded in the prison population at the end of the first quarter of 2024. The remainder of the population was made up of 10,422 foreign nationals, making up 11.9% of the total population, with an additional 578 having no nationality recorded.
It seems the 37% figure may have come from an entry in the table breaking down those non-British nationalities by country:
>All other nationalities 3,899 37.4%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_prison_populati...
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#324Brazil was so right. We're just an inference away from being jailed. I'm not from UK but it shows how we are all helpless and see in plain conciousness what is coming. When did we lost the grip?
Unlike Brazil the movie it's quite hard to actually end up in jail in the UK. The courts lean more towards letting criminals walk.
You’ve been drinking the propaganda again. Most cases don’t make it to court. The courts lean towards trusting the police. The police lean towards perjury.
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And the thing that absolutely fucks me off about all of this, is that we don't even get a lawful society in exchange for all of this. On one hand, there's no privacy anywhere. On the other - have your car stolen or a bike? House broken into? Phone snatched out of your hands? Good luck getting anyone to care about this in the slightest. You'd think with all the surveillance tech we'd be living in a nightmare panoptico…
It's called anarchy-tyranny, where the government fails to enforce basic laws and keep people safe from real criminals (anarchy), but instead uses its power to tightly control, tax, and punish ordinary, law-abiding citizens (tyranny). There are various conspiratorial theories for why this happens but I think the simplest explanation is that an ineffective government cannot deal with criminals and goes after the easie…
Why anarchy = criminal?
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#326Earlier quoted context omitted.
And the thing that absolutely fucks me off about all of this, is that we don't even get a lawful society in exchange for all of this. On one hand, there's no privacy anywhere. On the other - have your car stolen or a bike? House broken into? Phone snatched out of your hands? Good luck getting anyone to care about this in the slightest. You'd think with all the surveillance tech we'd be living in a nightmare panoptico…
It’s illegal to wear a balaclava in Britain while driving an electric motorcycle?
It's not the balaclava part I have an issue with, if you couldn't guess.
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This is a mature and considered take. But I’m sure you’ll agree: incompetence is not a reliable defence. So what happens when using and optimising these systems becomes a priority for the state? The apparatus is there, and capabilities can catch up to opportunities it presents.
I have to tell you I am not that bothered. Twice I nearly lost my father to terrorism in London. (Sliding Doors commuter moments both times — by sheer chance not being in the very usual place at the very usual time). I remain pretty relaxed about the idea that people who wish to bomb trains and tubes and buses can't get across London without the awareness that they could be tracked. You cannot live your life paranoid…
Now I look insensitive advocating against mass surveillance because of your personal experience.
Anyways. Very few people die to terrorism. It's just a great excuse to take away people's freedom because they are scared.
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> Supermarkets in the UK point cameras at your face at self-checkout. Just want to add, the overhead cameras at checkout are pointed straight down and can read your phone password as you put it in to pull up Apple Pay.
Don't 99% of people just use face or fingerprint unlocking?
That's besides the point. It's still a massive intrusion of privacy.
It's like a stranger looking over your shoulder, and you can't even tell it to bounce.
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#329Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes I'm sure their police force is entirely free of any psychological problems and in no way selects for people who might be incline to abuse their position of authority. Oh wait, this came out just yesterday: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/08/10/detective-respon...
on a micro level there are always specific cases of individual in group did a thing . but we have a totally different approach to policing, which is what i was actually meaning https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56834733 > The report looked at police training requirements in more than 100 countries and found that the US had among the lowest, in terms of average hours required. > Also, many other countries req…
Good friend is a criminal defense barrister. Most polite thing I can say is that you are drawing incorrect conclusions from the data you have.
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#330Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s illegal to wear a balaclava in Britain while driving an electric motorcycle?
It's not the balaclava part I have an issue with, if you couldn't guess.
Oh. Are you one of those people that think that electric vehicles are stupid and that we should stick to gasoline engines like God intended?