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Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by preisschild » Mon, Aug 10, 2026, 7:18 AM UTC

justinclift wrote: post #151

dwedge wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I started using tuta until I realised they don't support IMAP. Something to do with not guaranteeing encryption (which isn't even enabled by default) but has the convenient effect of locking you into their apps

IMAP can do TLS though (IMAPS). Did they say what's stopping them from using that (and requiring the encryption!)?

Its probably about end to end encryption. Protonmail doesn't store mailboxes in plaintext, only the client actually decrypts the mailbox. IMAPS only encrypts the conn between mail server and client.

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by telmo » Mon, Aug 10, 2026, 7:24 AM UTC

_tk_ wrote: post #282

telmo wrote: post #265

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I am pretty sure that European states are already storing data that is out of reach for the US government, and I don't understand how Congress could legislate against this, short of an act of war.

There are certainly exceptions, but a lot of European Governments use Azure or Google for their office applications, including different law enforcement agencies and militaries.

Indeed. My point, however, is that Congress cannot pass legislation to compel European governments to share data with the US if/when they decide not to. OP is making a weird claim about the practical impossibility of escaping US data collection.

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by askonomm » Tue, Aug 11, 2026, 12:14 PM UTC

xnickb wrote: post #48

amelius wrote: post #33

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How does Apple handle it?

Why would apple care? Eu is what a quarter of their business? And where exactly will those people move? They're locked into the Apple infra.

Fastmail has very nice email sync for iCloud that I use :)

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by catgirlinspace » Tue, Aug 11, 2026, 4:51 PM UTC

EPWN3D wrote: post #296

catgirlinspace wrote: post #175

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I assume they support this part of JMAP https://jmap.io/spec/rfc9661/

Their FAQ says you must use the web interface to edit your rules. But this is worth a shot.

ah, I wasn't aware of that.

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by jnrk » Tue, Aug 11, 2026, 9:49 PM UTC

hn_submit wrote: post #245

I call this "sovereignty washing": American companies pretending they can magically free themselves from the U.S. CLOUD Act by setting up a paper European presence. Anyone who falls for this is a fool wanting to be fooled.

Fastmail is Australian though.