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Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by ffsm8 »

jacquesm wrote: post #9

EU data regions are a reflexive action by companies that try to hold on to their EU customers (and more and more are leaving, surprisingly the larger ones seem to be leading here). Realize that as long as you are still hosted on US owned infrastructure or that if there are US (or: five-eyes) owned companies anywhere in the stack your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happen…

> your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happened

as a german i feel the urge to point out that this technically also applies to european companies... With more hurdles for the US, but still technically applicable

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by microtonal »

OJFord wrote: post #23
mrtesthah wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but Fastmail is an Australian company based in Melbourne.

But whose cloud infrastructure do they use? (I don't know, but it might likely be AWS, GCP, or Azure.)

That it described in the linked post:

We’ve installed our own servers, co-located in a secure facility in Amsterdam, set up by our own engineers.

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by amelius »

jacquesm wrote: post #9

EU data regions are a reflexive action by companies that try to hold on to their EU customers (and more and more are leaving, surprisingly the larger ones seem to be leading here). Realize that as long as you are still hosted on US owned infrastructure or that if there are US (or: five-eyes) owned companies anywhere in the stack your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happen…

How does Apple handle it?

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by crossroadsguy »

I have never understood their 50+10 GB storage as the starting plan. Anyone storing a lot of emails, please don't come at me screaming, but know that not everyone keeps every email and every attachment ever received right there in that email account (especially the attachments). For me, email is just communication i.e timed information, not data storage, except for very personal emails, and very very rare, some non-personal important emails. So some people do like to simply delete the emails they no longer need. Also their pricing almost feels like "unlimited storage" backup solutions mass pricing strategy.

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by rufasterisco »

jacquesm wrote: post #9

EU data regions are a reflexive action by companies that try to hold on to their EU customers (and more and more are leaving, surprisingly the larger ones seem to be leading here). Realize that as long as you are still hosted on US owned infrastructure or that if there are US (or: five-eyes) owned companies anywhere in the stack your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happen…

Can you point me towards some resources that show EU customers moving?

Not that I don’t trust the statement, I just would like to know more.

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by crossroadsguy »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #26

We offer EU data centers for customers that want their emails to stay in the EU but "Resilient replicas of your data will live in the US" ?

The US data replicas will be resilient, and when the FBI asks your data to reveal things about itself, your data will refuse to reveal anything about itself in the characteristic resilient manner. That's why the mention of "resilient".

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Post by lschueller »

If what you need is a guarantee that your data remains only in the EU, we don’t have that, and we’d rather tell you directly than let you assume otherwise.

Is there an alternative that really keeps data in the EU? (And not only in the sense it serves a sales promotion)

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