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Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by ben8bit »

kingkongjaffa wrote: post #249
ben8bit wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting, I generally use High for all models, even non Anthropic ones. This was one of the few times I tried Max, and the problem was the code (it listed as a "hole") was directly adjacent to the problem area, and not especially complex. Kind of like looking at a washing machine and telling the customer to be careful because the inlet pipe will pump water into an empty box.

GPT5.6-Sol is brilliant on Max in my experience.

Sol is absolutely incredible. It's the first model where it feels like a mid-weight engineer that actually looks at the details. I haven't tried Max yet - High for me has been enough so far.

Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by retsibsi »

TZubiri wrote: post #272
9dev wrote: post #129

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What an awful position to take. Tech used to be about becoming more accessible to people! Now we have a magical assistant to make computers do what you want with natural language, and your desire is gate keeping that so only programmers can use it to write software for themselves?

>so only programmers can use it to write software for themselves? Yes? The idea of an assistant that can use natural language is nice! But why would you MAKE software with it, it IS software, just do the thing you want to do! If you want to make an app, be prepared to jump hoops because this is no longer about YOU the user, it's about OTHER users. The idea of making personal single user software is a fantasy, an oxym…

> The idea of making personal single user software is a fantasy, an oxymoron, you MAKE software? there's the presumption that it will be used for other people, otherwise you'd be USING software.

It definitely isn't. I've done it (successfully) a few times.

> The idea of an assistant that can use natural language is nice! But why would you MAKE software with it, it IS software, just do the thing you want to do!

This makes no sense to me. Are you suggesting that instead of using an LLM to make, say, an ebook reader or crossword app that meets my personal needs, I should invoke an LLM every time I want to read a book or do a crossword? That feels like a strawman, but I can't work out what else you might be arguing here.

Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by djeastm »

hmokiguess wrote: post #277

This reminds me of a business lore I once heard about entrepreneurship. It goes on to tell how in a toothpaste company they needed to increase sales, then someone had an ingenious idea of making the hole on the tube larger so that when folks squeezed it more would come out increasing their consumption and therefore sales. It worked. I'll let you draw the analogy.

I think about the genius who suggested adding the "Repeat" in "Lather, Rinse, Repeat" on shampoo bottles.

Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by bradfa »

bradfa wrote: post #208
Retr0id wrote: post #170

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I manually approve everything (aside from the "allow commands like this" option). Not because I'm worried it's about to do something harmful but because I want to stop it from wasting tokens doing something stupid like implementing a feature I never asked ask for. I'm not even reading the commands, just checking it's going in vaguely the right direction. I think my ideal setup would not involve approving commands, bu…

I run in manual mode not out of rogue agent or token waste concern but because I want to effectively pair program with the agent. I need to understand what is happening along with the how and why. I’m confident I’m slower than YOLO people but that’s a trade off I’m consciously making so I can stay in the loop to comprehend the codebase. Your summary approval idea is interesting and feels maybe like a mini plan mode.…

This morning I've turned auto mode back on, I'm only using it during Claude's exploration phases of my workflow and then I'm reading the full transcript (which includes some thinking info). So far, this seems to be quite close to what I want, and an improvement over my previous "manual all the time" mode.

Still leaving manual approval for all edits. Combined with reading the full transcript of the exploration, I feel I stay in the loop pretty well in this first test.

Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by embedding-shape »

sixtyj wrote: post #237
coldtea wrote: post #189

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Isn't that what the people crying over their deleted or leaked data were doing too? "I've been playing Russian roulette with a 1024 chamber gun for a year now, it's fine"

Every driver thinks of themselves they are an excellent ones. Statistics has another data :) If LLM agent wants to get out of dedicated folder where it’s supposed to work and tries to run a command, ppl should be always cautious. In fact, it is a sort of # access on live data. Sudo/# is nice as you don’t have to ask for permissions, but I would recommend to do it only when you are fresh, fed, and not under stress. I…

> Every driver thinks of themselves they are an excellent ones. Statistics has another data :)

I think I'm an excellent driver, and I have data that backs that up, like I've never been in an accident but avoided plenty. What statistics show that I'm actually a terrible or even average driver?

> I remember few times that I “accidentally” deleted or changed stuff I wanted to have intact… (Somebody would say that it is a skill issue :) But it was always when I was in hurry.

Gives me flashbacks to when the company I worked for had some issue in production, we were 3-4 people huddled around a laptop trying to figure out what was going wrong. Viewing the logs on the host itself was too slow or not possible somehow, can't remember the details, but we were able to start transfers of the logs out of the host. Only problem was that the log file was GBs long (what is log rotation?) so would have been too slow. Easy, just compress the log file, then send that, should be a lot smaller. Obviously we were all in a rush but still wanna be careful, so I enter the command for compressing the only log file we have, ask for someone to check, other person says "looks good to me", I hit enter and we get an error that it couldn't find the file we were trying to compress, the created archive been created without any entries added to it. The log directory is now completely empty, except one tiny "errors.log" zip/tar-file that had been created when we accidentally used the wrong order of the arguments in our command to create the compressed archive. I think we had to recreate the host at this point, reproduce the issue then get the logs again, probably slowing down recovery +30 min at least.

Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by coldtea »

embedding-shape wrote: post #285
sixtyj wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every driver thinks of themselves they are an excellent ones. Statistics has another data :) If LLM agent wants to get out of dedicated folder where it’s supposed to work and tries to run a command, ppl should be always cautious. In fact, it is a sort of # access on live data. Sudo/# is nice as you don’t have to ask for permissions, but I would recommend to do it only when you are fresh, fed, and not under stress. I…

> Every driver thinks of themselves they are an excellent ones. Statistics has another data :) I think I'm an excellent driver, and I have data that backs that up, like I've never been in an accident but avoided plenty. What statistics show that I'm actually a terrible or even average driver? > I remember few times that I “accidentally” deleted or changed stuff I wanted to have intact… (Somebody would say that it is…

>I think I'm an excellent driver, and I have data that backs that up, like I've never been in an accident but avoided plenty. What statistics show that I'm actually a terrible or even average driver?

The statistics showing that past performance doesn't guarantee feature results, that a lot of the accident avoiding could be just having luck while still driving badly, and that a lot of drivers overestimate their skills.

Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by ozozozd »

jawiggins wrote: post #94

I use `--dangerously-skip-permissions` and have yet to have it wipe my drive :shrug:. I don't know how I'm supposed to be running dozens of parallel agents each with their own sub-agents while trying to approve commands from each of them, it's just won't scale to the amount of work I need to get done.

There may have been a miscommunication about the ask. I don’t think any software user ordered “run dozens of parallel agents each with their own sub-agents.”

Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by lazystar »

embedding-shape wrote: post #285
sixtyj wrote: post #237

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every driver thinks of themselves they are an excellent ones. Statistics has another data :) If LLM agent wants to get out of dedicated folder where it’s supposed to work and tries to run a command, ppl should be always cautious. In fact, it is a sort of # access on live data. Sudo/# is nice as you don’t have to ask for permissions, but I would recommend to do it only when you are fresh, fed, and not under stress. I…

> Every driver thinks of themselves they are an excellent ones. Statistics has another data :) I think I'm an excellent driver, and I have data that backs that up, like I've never been in an accident but avoided plenty. What statistics show that I'm actually a terrible or even average driver? > I remember few times that I “accidentally” deleted or changed stuff I wanted to have intact… (Somebody would say that it is…

on a similar note... what statistics show the accident rate of each model of car? or rather, a single driver's accident rate in various types of cars?

Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by mcmcmc »

Certhas wrote: post #121
mcmcmc wrote: post #36

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> it's someone who's more "code-naive" and might get anxious about approving random bash script commands they don't recognize. Maybe they should trust their instinct and not mess with things they don’t care to understand

I am using many many many things that I don't understand. Cars, public transport, etc... I review and test the end product, not every tiny step along the way. If the LLM uses some command line tools I have never heard of to create a model I can verify, why should I learn a tool that is completely irrelevant to my core expertise?

Are you jacking into your car’s OBD port and messing with the engine timing? There’s a difference between using a known tool in a controlled way and giving the tool to a hallucinatory goblin (or overconfident intern) with the directive “do it for me”. You don’t have to know everything about the tool to know what it does, or to tell if it’s doing something it shouldn’t (like malware). What happened to the old advice given to tech neophytes, “don’t run random scripts from the internet if you don’t know what they do”?

Re: Auto mode is now the default in Claude Code

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Post by [deleted] »

retsibsi wrote: post #282
TZubiri wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>so only programmers can use it to write software for themselves? Yes? The idea of an assistant that can use natural language is nice! But why would you MAKE software with it, it IS software, just do the thing you want to do! If you want to make an app, be prepared to jump hoops because this is no longer about YOU the user, it's about OTHER users. The idea of making personal single user software is a fantasy, an oxym…

> The idea of making personal single user software is a fantasy, an oxymoron, you MAKE software? there's the presumption that it will be used for other people, otherwise you'd be USING software. It definitely isn't. I've done it (successfully) a few times. > The idea of an assistant that can use natural language is nice! But why would you MAKE software with it, it IS software, just do the thing you want to do! This m…

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