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Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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That's circular reasoning, how would there be a lawsuit if customer have no way of knowing?

Sensible companies don't take that risk.

Sensible companies don't do a lot of stuff Meta has already been caught doing - sometimes with real consequences (but never enough to actually deter them, of course) - in the pursuit of more data.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Not really. I use Luna plenty and if this model is available in GH Copilot it would be nice to know how it compares on a cost/performance basis against models in its class.

So why did Meta compare against the Opus 5 Max, which is by far the most expensive model?

Why do they do anything? Why did they bet a gorillion dollars on VR second life? No clue, maybe this Zuckerberg guy isn’t as smart as we thought

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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So why did Meta compare against the Opus 5 Max, which is by far the most expensive model?

Why do they do anything? Why did they bet a gorillion dollars on VR second life? No clue, maybe this Zuckerberg guy isn’t as smart as we thought

Lol. That's about the only answer that makes sense.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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That's circular reasoning, how would there be a lawsuit if customer have no way of knowing?

Sensible companies don't take that risk.

Sensible companies also don't gamble $80B on something obviously stupid like the Metaverse.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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Meta is offering a 10x discount on input ($0.10 vs. $1.25/Mtok) and 20x discount on output ($0.20 vs. $4.25/Mtok) if you opt in to let them train on your data. https://developer.meta.com/ai/models/muse-spark/

I've been surprised by the reception to this, as OpenAI, for a while now, has had free API usage when data sharing is enabled ( https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10306912-sharing-feedbac... )

1 million free tokens per day might sound like a lot. But that equates to something like 20 minutes of actual coding usage, because cached inputs are counted towards that limit. It's still great for running big singular requests, like solving some math problem with GPT 5.6 Sol Pro max reasoning effort.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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FYI: there are providers of deepseek that offer the same or lower pricing and zero retention policies.

I don't trust them, they are probably distilling on your data.

But you trust Anthropic not do that?!

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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I can't understand the psychology of people who think like this. You really think a throwaway quote when Zuckerberg was a college student applies nowadays? You really think Meta would risk getting a massive (losing) lawsuit on their hands, in exchange for what? Middling amounts of training data?

Meta literally ran a man in the middle attack to spy on it's user's encrypted network traffic when they used third party apps [0]. More recently (and relevant to this issue), the engaged in industrial scale piracy to get training data for their LLMs [1]. The idea that they have changed since Zuck was a college student creeping on his female classmates and now wouldn't commit actual crimes against their own users in o…

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The credulity amazes me but mixed in with the brilliant minds here are some real 'temporarily embarrassed millionaires'. It's embarrassing, all right.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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"they 'trust me'. dumb fucks." The only difference between students doing it then and professionals doing it now is the students had no positive, glaring reason to mistrust.

I can't understand the psychology of people who think like this. You really think a throwaway quote when Zuckerberg was a college student applies nowadays? You really think Meta would risk getting a massive (losing) lawsuit on their hands, in exchange for what? Middling amounts of training data?

Throwaway? Which one.

"Dumb fucks"?

"If you need information on anyone at Harvard, just ask"?

"I'm going to fuck them [Winklevoss twins] in the ear"?

Applies nowadays? Ok, when? When he copied Snapchat into every single product? When he retracted all his messages on Facebook? (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16770818) When he explicitly killed Instagram (buying it) because 'they can hurt us'? Do you want more examples...?

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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post #259

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That's circular reasoning, how would there be a lawsuit if customer have no way of knowing?

Sensible companies don't take that risk.

And intellectually honest people don't engage in circular reasoning and then rather than acknowledging it just repeat it, yet here we are.

Re: Muse Code and Muse Spark 1.2

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post #259

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Sensible companies don't take that risk.

And intellectually honest people don't engage in circular reasoning and then rather than acknowledging it just repeat it, yet here we are.

Are you calling me intellectually dishonest?

Please justify that.

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