Woman pulled over twice after Flock-linked software connected her to homicide

Post by skinfaxi » Tue, Aug 11, 2026, 7:15 PM UTC

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When in enemy territory, the military looks at civilian populations as potential enemy combatants. Police are not supposed to view everyone this way as they are in their communities and not enemy territory.

It’s both unfortunate police are trained with videos of cops approaching motorists and getting filled with bullets, and unfortunate those are real situations. I wish there were a way to guarantee officer safety so you didn’t have to tell them “domestic violence incidents and traffic stops should scare you” (most dangerous police situations IIRC). You reminded me of a salient line in BSG: “There’s a reason you separat…

Post by andrewla » Tue, Aug 11, 2026, 7:18 PM UTC

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1. I for one do not want "Flock Safety" in the loop for this at all. Police departments can flag a license plate in the system; that's on them. Flock is just a tool for departments to communicate what would previously have been an APB and have better detection than relying on chance sightings. 2. The vehicle was correctly identified by Flock as being the one flagged, and verified by the local PD that it was the one t…

"But for" Flock Safety, this would never have happened. Similar to saying that Tesla is responsible for designing a safe AutoPilot even though there's still a driver in the loop who is responsible.

Post by shimman » Tue, Aug 11, 2026, 7:33 PM UTC

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No this is bad logic. Flock is absolutely responsible and they should not be releasing or selling products that are this poorly made. Saying that the responsibility is only on the user is extremely myopic. It's also dismissing the role Flock has in how they make and design their software. If they can't handle this maybe they should be disbanded as a company or nationalized for better public control.

The flock cameras were clearly misused. Misuse is 100% user error.

Post by grepex » Tue, Aug 11, 2026, 7:37 PM UTC

firefoxd wrote: post #176

I parked in a mall when someone stole my plate and replaced it with one from a stolen car. The next day, my brother, brand new in the country, borrowed my car to go to his first job. He was surrounded with dozens of LAPD cars, held at gun point in the middle of a boulevard and dragged through the mud in his first day work clothes. He tells me the only thing that saved him that day for not getting shot was not having…

Post by shimman » Tue, Aug 11, 2026, 7:42 PM UTC

lukan wrote: post #96

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No this is bad logic. Flock is absolutely responsible and they should not be releasing or selling products that are this poorly made. Saying that the responsibility is only on the user is extremely myopic. It's also dismissing the role Flock has in how they make and design their software. If they can't handle this maybe they should be disbanded as a company or nationalized for better public control.

"Flock is absolutely responsible and they should not be releasing or selling products that are this poorly made." I am not a fan of flock, nor police surveillance state, but what could they have done better here? "Milwaukee police later admitted the alert should have been cleared out of the system days earlier, but an employee simply forgot to remove it. " The system seemed to work as intended - that numberplate was…