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Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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Five Eyes country are subject to local data disclosure orders and gag clauses, forcing them to hand over user data that may then enter the shared intelligence pool

There are no Five Eyes country in the EU.

the company is based in Australia, which is part of FVEY

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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EU data regions are a reflexive action by companies that try to hold on to their EU customers (and more and more are leaving, surprisingly the larger ones seem to be leading here). Realize that as long as you are still hosted on US owned infrastructure or that if there are US (or: five-eyes) owned companies anywhere in the stack your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happen…

Ok, but Fastmail is an Australian company based in Melbourne.

Australia and the US entered into a bilateral agreement in 2024 which made Australian companies subject to the US CLOUD Act.

https://www.justice.gov/criminal/criminal-oia/cloud-act-agre...

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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post #9

EU data regions are a reflexive action by companies that try to hold on to their EU customers (and more and more are leaving, surprisingly the larger ones seem to be leading here). Realize that as long as you are still hosted on US owned infrastructure or that if there are US (or: five-eyes) owned companies anywhere in the stack your data can still be forcibly pulled and often without you being aware that this happen…

Ok, but Fastmail is an Australian company based in Melbourne.

But whose cloud infrastructure do they use? (I don't know, but it might likely be AWS, GCP, or Azure.)

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

#24

Five Eyes country are subject to local data disclosure orders and gag clauses, forcing them to hand over user data that may then enter the shared intelligence pool

There are no Five Eyes country in the EU.

No, but there are nine eyes and fourteen eyes with EU countries.

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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post #19
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which wouldn't matter where the data is located, so I don't think that this is the reason Fastmail is doing it, because a savvy enough company would know that the problem is that the company is US based.

They're Australian

Australian companies are also subject to the USA Cloud Act. As is the UK, with Canada coming on board soon too.

Even the entire EU is in the process of negotiating the same agreement.

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/united-states-and-ca...

https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/justice-department-a...

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

#27

Five Eyes country are subject to local data disclosure orders and gag clauses, forcing them to hand over user data that may then enter the shared intelligence pool

Not sure Five Eyes will outlast Trump, the UK has reportedly stopped sharing some intelligence with the US:

https://www.courthousenews.com/uk-faces-questions-on-complic...

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

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post #19
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which wouldn't matter where the data is located, so I don't think that this is the reason Fastmail is doing it, because a savvy enough company would know that the problem is that the company is US based.

They're Australian

isn't there this five eyes thingy?

Re: Fastmail offers EU data region

#30

Five Eyes country are subject to local data disclosure orders and gag clauses, forcing them to hand over user data that may then enter the shared intelligence pool

There are no Five Eyes country in the EU.

Is fastmail not australian?
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