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AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Post by jsphweid »

cute_boi wrote: post #8
KoolKat23 wrote: post #3

Perhaps I'm imagining it but the entire industry was build on published research, this "AI wave" is at odds with that and seems to be driven by greed (although they'll claim some arms race or something to help themselves sleep at night). There should be a new ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) policy being pushed recognizing the important role this plays. Although ESG and all norms have been set aside in thi…

Forget publishing, companies like misanthropic are buying rare books and destroying it. [1] https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/anthropic-destroyed-milli...

When they do this, are they buying a single copy of say Book A and destroying a single Book A copy? Or are they buying every copy they can find of Book A and destroying all of them?

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Post by KolmogorovComp »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #10
cute_boi wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget publishing, companies like misanthropic are buying rare books and destroying it. [1] https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/anthropic-destroyed-milli...

What do you mean?

To scan them, they usually have to resort breaking them into individual pages.

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Post by taude »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #10
cute_boi wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget publishing, companies like misanthropic are buying rare books and destroying it. [1] https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/anthropic-destroyed-milli...

What do you mean?

they're refering to this: https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-companies-de...

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Post by egonschiele »

As far as I can tell, the paper never actually mentions the companies who aren't publishing papers. Open AI, Anthropic, and hugging face are all specifically mentioned as companies that do publish papers. Just FYI for anyone else who reads "AI's top startups" and immediately assumes OpenAI and Anthropic.

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Post by wonnage »

drivebyhooting wrote: post #10
cute_boi wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget publishing, companies like misanthropic are buying rare books and destroying it. [1] https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/anthropic-destroyed-milli...

What do you mean?

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/anthropic-destroyed-milli...

The scanning process destroys the book.

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Post by ComputerPerson »

jsphweid wrote: post #11
cute_boi wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Forget publishing, companies like misanthropic are buying rare books and destroying it. [1] https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/anthropic-destroyed-milli...

When they do this, are they buying a single copy of say Book A and destroying a single Book A copy? Or are they buying every copy they can find of Book A and destroying all of them?

Elon recently (2d) tweeted about making sure they preserve rare books and "scan them the hard way". That tweet launched a cultural wave of opposition regarding the debinding of rare books.

The discussion has been around, but it's flared significantly recently. Not sure if that's what the person you're responding to is specifically inflamed about.

Regardless, old/rare books are certainly being acquired and destroyed.

Re: AI's top startups are barely publishing their research

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Post by odyssey7 »

Once something goes commercial, academics have to consider what progress would be research-worthy, rather than a half-baked prototype for a product or feature.

Companies can’t be expected to publish their confidential and proprietary information about their feature development, and academics should consider projects that would have higher impact.

If you’re taking up a seat in a PhD program tinkering with would-be feature ideas for an existing major tech company, you should really just get hired by that tech company, where the resources are abundant and the degree is not required.

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