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Let's try something else, because you seem to take it that "brain = physics" is a strong enough argument to believe that all of human creativity is inherently systematic. The defin…

I have defined it in your other comment, relax dude. No need to jump threads because you're emotional.

If we can infinitely reach things untraceable to known physics then I don't see how it could ever be proven that we could perfectly simulate human brains, but for the sake of the a…

You are literally a troll.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt and re-read the thread. Creativity: producing what is novel + valuable Systematizable: can be enumerated via algorithmic operations "As others h…

Adhering to physics does not necessarily imply that creativity is systematizable.

Most artists actually can tell which style each AI piece is stealing from. If you want the perfect example google "Beksinski". The overall goopy feeling of AI art is actually a tur…

AI will always lose because the result can only be a permutation of what already exists and the next artist will grow up and push the boundary - hence, AI will always lag behind th…

If they couldn't tell it was AI, yes. Winning an art competition is by itself paradoxical in undermining the point of art, so I don't know how that's relevant, but it is certainly …

If notion of "trained eyes" were to ever have meaning, this would be it.

Once again since you missed the entire point: I don't believe creativity is non-physical, I believe it is non-systematizable, and my brother achieving a PhD in computational neuros…

Yeah I think my point flew over your head, which is fine. And you're incorrect - you cannot "empirically prove creativity". As a professional artist I don't think you quite underst…

Incorrect - I'm clearly using delineate to mean providing the exact set of computational instructions which produce the output (image), which by the definition of "computable" must…

And the Masters developed their style over decades pushing beyond the previously systematized constraints of their peers, something which can definitionally not be achieved by AI w…

I'm pointing out that your "AI Effect" is one-sided in the wrong direction. Surely you agree that we care more to prove the affirmative of whether a machine is conscious rather tha…

I never said it can't. And you're mistaken unfortunately - it is extremely difficult to prove a negative, as most people trained in philosophy intimately understand. For instance, …

I never said it can't. And you're mistaken unfortunately - it is extremely difficult to prove a negative, as most people trained in philosophy intimately understand. For instance, …

That's actually untrue to me as a professional artist. A.I. art has shown me that cheap permutations (which have been done in art even before A.I.) can still capture the untrained …

No - we're discussing whether someone producing stock photography can be trained in the same sense as a.i. However, I will give you that I'm potentially falsely assuming creativity…

The reverse is also true which makes your entire point hypocritically paradoxical. If a human makes it we immediately assume it can be computed (creativity). That is the strong cla…

Once again, that is an incredibly strong assertion and if you wish to be reasonable then the burden of proof is on you to prove those parameters before making such claims (e.g. tha…

I think my point flew over your head. The burden of proof is on you to provide the source that human creativity can be computed mathematically.

That is an incredibly strong assertion that evidence does not seem to support currently. So, you may take it on faith if you wish, however there is growing interest in the notion t…

Nope - a.i. is essentially just rearranging pixels because you can formally delineate (via mathematical expressions) how to arrive from input set to output image. To compare this i…

I carefully did not mention this service, but rather pointed it to your sentiment which AGAIN seems to be binary in this pro/anti idea which is unnecessarily rigid and resistant to…