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> Strange then that they routinely don't wait for and ignore any and all input from other browser vendors It's not strange when you consider that other browser vendors sometimes fl…

But if the web engine you have to use is a) shitty and b) the same as everyone else (except slightly shittier [1]), how are you going to make it popular? The browser engine is an i…

Right. So I don't know the costs of the hoops we need to jump through for our app to be granted a place on the app store. I'm not the guy who does the spreadsheets :). I do know th…

>> If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that route? > Why doesn't business hire two teams? One for the amazing native-like PWA, and one for iOS? You quo…

The WPT graph shows failures for tests that fail in only one browser. So the accelerometer tests, for example, would need to pass in both Blink and Gecko for it to count as a failu…

> A feature that is shipped in a single browser is just that: that browser's non-interoperable feature. AFAIK, the popover and/or anchor positioning APIs was standards before it sh…

Building the same app for iOS, Android and desktop: up to 2-5 times the costs (for businesses, how they cover those costs depends) App tax: 15-30%, which can drive the price for co…

> business hires three teams? Yes. The web's winning feature is "it works everywhere". If your app doesn't work for the wealthiest 50% of users, why go that route? Making a desktop…

> if you break the app store monopoly, you can install chrome or firefox and do all the web-app-platform nonsense you want Apple would also need to be forced to provide the APIs th…

> In other words, Apple has successfully prevented you from writing a web application ... by abusing their monopoly position on iOS (instead of competing). Good outcome?

> Google often doesn't bother even with a spec. I'm sorry, but that doesn't seem to be right. They have a process: https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/ > I wouldn't r…

I thought this was obvious, but higher costs for building and maintaining an app (vs a web app) means higher prices for users. I think people would love to pay less, and would hate…

First of all: don't they? (honest question, I truly don't know if Africa has more PWAs compared to US/EU/etc) Second: There are many reasons why businesses would opt for a native a…

> I care whether Apple would compete with Google, and they wouldn't. They receive $20B a year from Google (search engine deal). Some estimates put WebKit/Safari's budget at $500M. …

Funny you would say that. Because businesses and users have only one choice on iOS: native apps, because the web app isn't viable (and/or available) on iOS.

How is that irrelevant? Isn't it important to ask the question "why did this thing work on desktop, but not on mobile?"

> I think Chromium out-competing every other browser engine is a bad thing. Hmm. I believe that Apple can compete with Google if they want to. They have the money, they have the ma…

I compiled a "short" list of why amd how Safari is crippled. Not entirely on topic for the post, but seems appropriate as a reply on this particular comment ;) https://webventures.…

> Mobile safari is arguably the only thing standing between Google and total browser dominance "Apple Is Not Defending Browser Engine Choice" https://infrequently.org/2022/06/apple…

Fair :)

No, because any browser can decide to ship a feature that it thinks is worthwhile. Users can decide which browser they trust to be their User Agent. The distribution model is open.…

> many of these are in fact not a standard according to W3C and should not be implemented in any browser until it is. That's not exactly how standards work. A browser (or anyone) c…

> The people don't like apps built with web tech Then why do most people spend > 90% of their time in a browser (or web-powered app) on desktop?

The web can be a competitor for the app stores, breaking that monopoly. It already did on desktop (where most users spend > 90% of their time in a browser) And yes, you can write n…

If a web app doesn't work on iOS, a business builds a native app instead. iOS is too important. So that fantastic native-like PWA never gets built in the first place. Apple is not …