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I suspect most that complain about Java and have written JEE code in the past have never seen Spring 3.

As a Java developer that got in to Rails I have been saying this for years (especially since Rails 3). I'm glad someone else has finally brought the discussion to HN.

Now I want to change my vote ...

This makes it no different from most programming languages. De-obfuscated code still takes a ton of work when you've lost all variable names, comments, and formatting.