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Correct me if I'm wrong but a big part of the value proposition these days for Erlang/Elixir would be that it comes build in with a lot of the tools that other runtimes would requi…

All fair. I suppose my point is that I think people do actually have a decent sense of what value proposition there with emacs but simply don't agree that its strengths are worth t…

Problem with Hare is that it is (or at least was last time I checked) Linux/Unix only and so by design. That kinda makes it DOA for many.

I think it is way simpler than that. IMHO, for many people young or old the value proposition of emacs simple is no longer there and/or worth the huge learning curve. For most thin…

Are you comparing Elixir with a framework as extensive as Phoenix to Go and "just" its standard http library? If so I'm not sure that would be a good comparison then.

Or they simply think or know that vscode does what it needs to, for them to get the job done. In the end the best tool is the one you can be productive in. No need for gatekkeeping…

To some vscode probably is good enough and that is OK. I don't see why this would be an issue.

To be fair the importance for devs/programmers to touch type is often very exaggerated. Not saying it is not a benefit but is is far from a "must" or something that is a detriment …

I mean it depends what one use Vim or their editor of choice for. For example I do think that efficiency gains when for example developing in Java are marginal if there at all. Or …

What real world application is there, where in 2024 Lisp(s) is the definite better tool vs the dozen of established languages that are used in its place. Yes, technically Lisp is a…

Thank you, too for the friendly discussion.

I don't think neovim is as strong as emacs when it comes to extensibility. It also has no self documenting like emacs. If one is committed to the philosophy of using emacs for ever…

Again I agree that Emacs is powerful and can be an excellent tool. Never disputed that. But it still, again, to me is clunky. I dislike its defaults, its interface, the ergonomics.…

To be fair some of these are subjective. People of course should never sell their opinions as objective or facts. Which btw, I don't think the person you responded to did.

That's why I said IMHO. I tried Emacs in 2023 and 2024 and to me it is still way too clunky, gets in my way all the time and has , what I consider, bad defaults and to me very bad …

As long as most Lisps and Schemes rely so heavily on Emacs as part of their tooling, it will never reclaim its status from its heydays. Emacs is just too clunky in 2024. Just IMHO …

"compared to "more accessible" languages and all their hidden gotchas" ---- Yes because APL or array languages in general have absolutely no hidden gotchas ...

Biggest issue with most Lisps is, IMHO, that you need emacs for a great developer experiences when it comes to tools. And emacs is not for everyone.

My only issue with Kotlin is Kotlin's over reliance on JetBrain products and being so tightly tied to a company which priority it is to of course sell their IDE. To be fair, one of…

Kotlin is weird inclusion in that list with Java and .NET unless you'd include Android.

I like OpenBSD, but its very limited virtualization options means I cannot really use it full-time. Also the performance is not that great, but something I could live with.

As Schemes go Chicken is one of the most practical ones and easiest or straightforward to get into, IMHO! Would love to see it grow more widely adaptation.

Very nice. Congrats. This looks interesting.

It is being actively maintained. More important, IMHO, would be if they ( I think it is Chris Hanson these days) would greatly improve some of the documentation. For quite a few th…

The issue regarding editors is a real one IMHO. Common Lisp is too tied towards emacs. It can put, people who don't like Emacs, off. And while there are alternatives, but like the …