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Keeping some kind of style information is definitely important to understand the semantics of the webpage.

Thanks Steeve!

Yes HTML is too heavy and too expensive for LLM. We are working on a text-based format more suitable for AI.

Thanks for the feedback, we will try to make this clearer on the website. Lightpanda works with Playwright, and we have some docs[1] and examples[2] available. Web APIs and CDP spe…

Hi, I am Francis, founder of Lightpanda. We wrote a full article explaining why we choose Zig over Rust or C++, if you are interested: https://lightpanda.io/blog/posts/why-we-built…

And some lightweight alternatives like Bellard's QuickJS ( https://bellard.org/quickjs/ ) in C and Kiesel ( https://kiesel.dev/ ) in Zig.

Yes, argentic workflows are one of our use cases for Lightpanda. We skip the graphical rendering of the web page for instant startup, fast execution and low resources usage.

It might works if you need to handle a few websites. But this retro engineering approach is not maintainable if you want to handle hundreds or thousands of websites.

I don't expect it to change a lot. All the main components are there, it's mainly a question of coverage now.

Not now but we might do it in the future. It's easy to export a Zig project as a C ABI library.

Thank you! Happy if you use it for your e2e tests in your servers, it's an open-source project! Of course it's quite easy to spin a local instance of a headless browser for occasio…

It was my first idea. Forking Chromium has obvious advantages (compatibility). But it's not architectured for that. The renderer is everywhere. I'm not saying it's impossible, just…

For now we just support CDP. But Selenium is definitely in our roadmap.

Yes but WebKit is not a browser per se, it's a rendering engine. It's less resource-intensive than Chrome, but here we are talking orders of magnitude between Lightpanda and Chrome…

There are a lot of uses cases: - LLM training (RAG, fine tuning) - AI agents - scraping - SERP - testing - any kind of web automation basically Bot protection of course might be a …

We’re Francis and Pierre, and we're excited to share Lightpanda ( https://lightpanda.io ), an open-source headless browser we’ve been building for the past 2 years from scratch in …

Thanks! No we haven't worked on bot detection.

Every tool can be used in a good or bad way, Chrome, Firefox, cURL, etc. It's not the browser who doesn't play nicely, it's the user. It's the user's responsibility to behave well,…

We did not run benchmarks with chrome-headless-shell (aka the old headless mode) but I guess that performance wise it's on the same scale as the new headless mode.

I fully understand your concern and agree that scrapers shouldn't be hurting web servers. I don't think they are using our browser :) But in my opinion, blocking a browser as such …

WASM support is not there yet but it's on the roadmap and we had it in our mind since the beginning of the project, and have made our dev choices accordingly. So yes it could be us…

We had some discussions about it. It seems to us that AGPL will ensure that a company running our browser in a cloud managed offer will have to keep its modifications open for the …