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> they're print designers who dabble in the web, amateurs They're print designers but definitely not amateurs. In the end, what really matters is that the client receives very high…

> If you can't build me a complete cross browser HTML template, a skin, for a website, you aren't a web designer. If you've found such people - great. In places I've worked it was …

Sorry to be shocking :) I defend them because they're paid to do beautiful work and lack of layer names was never really an issue for me. Maybe just a couple of times. If the mess …

Totally agree with you, it was the same in places I've worked.

> not much consistency to your logic here It is logical, because there are often hundreds of layers and presumably even more during the design process. Naming each one is a lot of …

It's different than code. First of all, if the designer gets the job done without renaming layers, then it's his business. (In my experience, a lot of them don't need to name layer…

OK, you (and other commenters) are right. It was an overstatement. I agree with your last paragraph.

But then such designer is not a target for this "Manifesto". BTW, I see value in having one person create designs as HTML files, but I also know a lot of designers who create beaut…

I'm a frontend developer and I think some of these expectations make little sense. Giving a name to every layer is a lot of work and I don't care about it that much. I'll do my wor…

Interesting. We've just had a discussion in our team about moving as much as possible to the client becasue... developers enjoy writing CoffeeScript!