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Once minified and gzipped it's less than 200K. But yeah, I can see how a packing command would be useful with program analysis, except that'd rule out any use of the metamodel for …

Probably not easily because no JVM language has compatible lambdas types, but ideally in the future I'd love to be able to.

> but software is about trust and I do not trust somebody like Gavin King for delivering a good language after Hibernate :) Perhaps it's just a joke, but if it's not: sure you're e…

> But claiming it is anywhere near Kotlin's is just preposterous. The only example you give is that they don't have their own standard library. I agree it's a difference, but you r…

Ceylon has an IntelliJ plugin in the works that builds on the solid foundation of the Eclipse plugin, so it's picking up features really fast. It should be out in a few months.

Ceylon also has excellent Java/JVM (and JavaScript) interop. You should try it :)

Don't forget that, running on the JVM with great interop means that any Ceylon program has instant access to a huge ecosystem, including not just Java libraries but also Scala libr…

> The level of interoperability, though, is radically different from Kotlin's There's no truth in that. Sure, it's possible that there are some differences in how we both do intero…

> - reified generics -- This is apparently expensive on the JVM: http://blog.jetbrains.com/kotlin/2014/12/m10-is-out/ FTR I am not sure I believe that explanation. I was with Gavin…